Jam-e-Jamshed: Return to the fold
With a new editor taking over Jam-e-Jamshed, the recently acquired reformist views of the 177-year-old Parsi weekly may be toned down
By Manoj R Nair / Mumbai Mirror
On Sunday, readers of Jam-e-Jamshed, a Parsi community weekly and one of the oldest newspapers in the country, were surprised at the sudden change in its editorial line.
For the last few years, the 177-year-old newspaper had been the voice of what is the ‘reformist’ section of the community. The latest subject of debate in the Parsi-Zoroastrian community has been the ban on two priests from praying for the dead at the Towers of Silence.
These priests were restricted from the cemetery by the Bombay Parsi Punchayet (BPP), the community’s apex representative body, for offering after-death prayers for members opting for non-traditional methods of funerals such as cremation and burial. The priests have also been accused of conducting Navjotes or initiation ceremonies of children with mixed parentage. A group of eminent Parsis has petitioned the Bombay High Court against the ban.
The Jam-e-Jamshed had always been critical of the ban on the priests. However, the latest edition of the paper featured articles written by orthodox priests supporting the ban. Community members said that many of them were taken by surprise at the change in the newspaper’s stance. The sudden shift in the editorial tone has been attributed to a change in the paper’s editorial leadership.
Jehangir Patel, Editor, Parsiana, a liberal weekly for the community, said, “There is bound to be a change, as the new editor is considered to have more orthodox views on community issues. Jam-e-Jamshed has always been orthodox in its views. It is only in the last decade that it had become liberal.”
Solicitor Berjis Desai, who also writes a weekly column on Parsi issues in Mumbai Samachar, another venerated community institution said, “The new editor is considered somewhat orthodox in their leanings. There will definitely be a change in the paper’s policy. One could already see the changes in the latest edition of the newspaper. The orthodox section has staged a coup of sorts by getting a person empathetic to their views to head the editorial.”
Jam-e-Jamshed’s new editor Shernaaz Engineer said that the paper had no editorial comment or article on the ban on the two priests. “However, a question recently arose – is there an established practice of “High Priests” among Parsis? A couple of readers responded via letters – which were the only letters received on the topic. To read politics into ‘Letters to the Editor’ is uncalled for. Jam-e-Jamshed will maintain a fair and balanced editorial policy,” Engineer said. “It is a 177-year-old newspaper. It has a long legacy. I would request the community elders not to turn it into a political battleground.”
During its nearly two-century-old existence, the Jam-e-Jamshed has seen changes in ownership and content. It was a daily, though now it only publishes weekly. The Gujarati-language paper now has an English section to cater to the new generation, most who do not read the community’s adopted language.
The publication is now owned by the Dubash family, believed to be liberal in their views on issues such as inter-community marriages. However, they are also not known to interfere with the editorial content of the paper.
During the 2008 polls to elect trustees to the BPP, the newspaper was a vociferous opponent of the orthodox group that eventually won the first election where all adult members could participate. While the reaction from its general readers to the sudden editorial shift has been that of surprise, orthodox leaders facing intense criticism from the newspaper are hoping for a respite.
Dinshaw Mehta, BPP Chairman said, “Jam-e-Jamshed had always been very orthodox in matters of religion. It had suddenly taken a U-turn and started propagating the reformist line. Hopefully, with the change in editorial leadership, the BPP-bashing will stop.”
Since you have quoted extensively from the Religeous Texts I believe you could be termed as a “Scholar”. Tell me how many practicing Zoroastrians have ever read or can quote from the Texts? This majority in our community do need help from the scholars…..
Yes my friend I am around to help people who need the same. I do not claim to be a scholar myself. No words in any religion have exclusive registered rights, and so any human being in any religion is free to quote/use the same. Just as we have no exclusive rights over the words “Good Thoughts, Good Words and Good Deeds”. Virtually every religion talks of the same. Puff, Puff, >>>>>
I have received Your private mail and as mutually agreed I have deliberately not replied here……
Puff==> “In short according to you it is mentioned in the Gathas that religion is all about what one feels is right and as per our freedom of choice we can do what we want.”
Yes.
Puff==> “Why have so many religions, so many prophets, if God is one ? Any mention about that ?”
Good question… So whats your answer?
Your own study!! interesting!! Well, the claim is made by you… you must provide the evidence… to prove it right or wrong …not me.
‘Frinemna’ is the word used in Gatha to describe humanity.
Y44.10 does not contain the word “Frinemna”.
Recheck and give me the correct answer.
As per freedom of choice are we allowed to murder, rape, steal, commit fraud etc.? what about my question on Sudreh-kusti ? Is it wrong to wear these as well ?
Since I am learning from you, and you appear to base your arguments purely on Gathas would like you to tell me what the Gatha states about multiple religions and multiple prophets. Awaiting your answers.
Just got time to read this long thread at leisure and feel there is much ado about nothing. In gujarati we use the phrase “Vaat ma kai dam nathi”
As I see it on this Parsi Khabar forums there are 3 categories of bloggers. One who are neutral and will never enter into a religious debate but will just comment on general topics. The second are the Traditionals / Orthodox who quietly and peacefully follow the religion and its customs as laid down by their forefathers to the best of their abilities and defend it vociferously when it is under attack. The third are the Deformists / Liberals who will try every trick in the book to prove the traditionalists wrong and push their agenda of doing away with the long standing traditions and customs only because they themselves on account of various reasons are unable to follow them or would like to appear modern and progressive.
Whatever be the reasons, this acrimony can very easily be avoided. All of us have heard of the proverb “Either get involved or stop criticizing the system.”
The Deformists who are less in number and want to do things their way should sincerely work towards their goal of setting up the necessary infrastructure to get things done. This involves setting up their own institutions like clergy, temples, burial grounds, crematoriums etc and not interfere in the existing infrastructure of the Parsi / Irani Zarathushtri community. They can call themselves by whichever name they want to maintain a distinct identity. I believe groups like ARZ already are in the process of setting up such infrastructure.
This way nobody forces their opinion on others, everyone gets their much touted “Freedom of choice” as stated in Gathas and follow whatever version of text / scripture is best suited to them. They can convert, intermarry, bury, burn, drown do what they please and there will be no one to point a finger at them.
End of all battles.
hI Puff,
I agree with your view point. India is a democracy & we have freedom, however, our freedom/behaviour is governed by the laws of our land, which is for our common good. Similarly our religion too has given us freedom, but like every other religion we need to adhere to guidelines/rules. Our prayers our Sudreh Kusti guide us in making the right choices, help fight & protect us against our own negative thoughts & those directed against us. Every religion believes in good thoughts, words & deeds & every religion has it’s own rituals, rules. Thanks
Any statistics to establish who is in majority and who is in minority. And what about those who are NOT Reformist or Deformist as called but are not gripped by rigidity and taboos?
It is this category, who one assumes are in majority.(I repeat I assume and not claim.)
The properties left by ancestors is not earmarked for any specific brand of Parsi Zoroastrians but for ALL practicing Zoroastrians regardless of their views.
The last para of the post is indicative of frustration arising out of failure to silence others. An anti thesis of democratic values.
Realism is a conviction and Rigidity is a Taboo.
“existing infrastructure of the Parsi / Irani Zarathushtri community’.is not a bequest left by forefathers of any blogger be it so called reformist or orthodox or fake othodox who outnumber genuine Orthodox.. Even Trustees are not owners. They hold it in Trust
The sentence”They can convert, intermarry, bury, burn, drown do what they please and there will be no one to point a finger at them” shows how ‘peaceful’ nature of “Traditionalists”
is
The DISCLAIMER forgotten in a days time.
Puff.
One should necessarily put on Sudreh Kusti. Sudreh, I believe is intended to guide a person on the right path. But then how would one assign reasons for Sudreh Kusti wearing Thugs who brazenly overlook priests whose children are
inter married but adopt a different yard stick to evaluate an ordinary Zoroastrian?
“Give me the ‘correct’ answer” ??? HaaaHaaa… how silly you can be!!!…what makes you think i have to reply to any silly questions you put here!! And who are you to judge my replies, Mr Puff Avari??
‘Freedom of choice’ is based on the concept of Golden rule…and its not meant for dummies who can’t decide for themselves between good and bad. So I guess understanding Gatha is beyond your capacity…
Gatha doesn’t say anything about multiple religions and multiple prophets… In fact it says nothing at all about ‘PROPHETHOOD’ ..
‘Prophethood’ is a semitic invention and its totally illogical to core … Why would an all powerful, all knowing God want to run his world using prophets? Besides all those who claimed to be God’s representatives were of questionable characters themselves like Moses or Mohammad both of who were war lords….
It really makes me laugh when ppl call Zarathustra, a prophet. He never called himself a prophet nor did anyone around him ever referred to him as one. He was a teacher… or a guru…much like Buddha or Mahavir or Guru Nanak.
@ saf
Caught you with your pants down. I knew all along that you are the biggest bluff master trying to pull a fast one on the innocent bloggers here. You even tried to bluff on a simple word not knowing that everyone here is not a dunce like you. Parsis can open the prayer book to read. While we are on this topic let me also tell you that the other two quotes you had given from the respective Yasnas do not exist.
In future dont ever try your stunts here, or the outcome will be worse. Those who cannot recite a simple Ashem should not even attempt to translate the Gathas. When you claim Gathas do not say anything about multiple religions and multiple prophets, you are WRONG here too. But I am not here to waste my time with morons like you here. You have been exposed as an idiot beyond doubt.
Thank you Delnavaz. Look forward to your guidance and lucid explanation.
Pufff Pervez Avari here is a site for you – http://www.getlife.com
Anti Dhongi, never argue with idiots like Puff Pervez Avari.. they drag you to their level and onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
R and R… ironically Zarathustra was a deformist ooops reformist too…and he used to call rigid Orthodox as ‘anti progressive minds’… (Angra Mainyu)…
Anti Dhongi, well said, i agree with you.
Behram…
On your three type of bloggers…
Even the trads or the preservationists can come to solutions with the real reformists…You see a real reformists is the one that actually might think a different perspective is gonna help the faith/community…and if academically his/her point is refuted , then wheather its a reformist or a traditionalist…he/she would put betterment. continuation of the faith b4 everythign else….
So for example we have many zoroastrians who are intermaried but see the truth in data collected on how intermarriage effects a small community….and also the proof that our forfathers were right when they said intermarriage wikll be one major source of concern as they will be the ones that a demand to change what they preserved will be thrust upon. Also it is from this segment that gives support to the real danger…and that are the deformists or the ones with personal agendas…
These mascarade as reformists but are not even true to that cause…so if AZA does not like dokhmenishini, they will garner support from the intermarried to stop a zoroastrian system…
Then the cultist like the gatha alone cult want to nullify whatever the saviours of zoroastrianism preserved and the reason zoroastrianism survives…The yasnas to everythign else except the gathas which actually interlinked to trads, rituals and other texts…this establishes what the killer of Zoroastrian priests to the ones who burnt our books wanted to achieve…
They get their support from the intermarried…..
Then the intermarried themselves and their offspirngs NATURALLY fuse the 3 faiths..impacting the smaler one..again a natural phenomenon…..
So again the yasna is overshadowed with teh yagna as the zoroastrians themselevs aid in such as the geh with the namaaz and anti Zoroastrian philosophy creeps into Zroastrianism
Then comes the puppets and pseudos that play a part that dismisses everything not liked , when given proofs, dismisses the texts..and lastly starts belittling..ex..siloo on Zoroastrians betraying Indians, or dakhmenishni as theire were no tools or there was no sudreh and kisti though there being enough evidence..and also a avestan name for a Kusti…but ignorance makes saf , Piloo, dhongi etc prach other wise…
Yet there are many intermarried, or the ones who are men enough to say that their personal choice can an d shoudl not in any way aid people who with their ignorance, arrogance and malicious propoganda want to achieve what hoardes of macedonians, Byzantines and Islamists could not achieve in over millenias..
Hi,
I wonder if Anti dhongi & Saf are actually just one person. One posts a comment & the other immediately agrees/congratulates him on his wit
)
Hi, Delnavaz,
I too believe in the principles of Good Thoughts/Words & Deeds. You have mentioned that each Religion has its own rules. Can you let me know the Book or any other reliable source to know these actual Rules,for our community, applicable universally,irrespective of geographical location.
and of regardless of position, wealth, material possesions of the individual.
Thanks.
My Dear Zarathushtri friends,
The objective of my post was to unite and not divide our already small community and the method to co exist was for each side to respect the views of the other and not step on each other’s toes. The solution I have provided does just that but it has been unfortunately misconstrued.
A qustion that keeps popping up is —-> Any statistics to establish who is in majority and who is in minority.
This has to be addressed looking at the recent historical events. Lets rewind to the year 2000 when a group of highly influential people called the DDD-AG raised their ugly head by demanding setting up of a crematorium and use of the existing bunglis for cremation at Doongerwadi. Being a group of reputed Solicitors, advocates, Doctors, CA’s their claim was they had studied the trust deed and found clauses that would force the BPP to give in to their demands. Ofcourse what was not well known is that all this drama was cooked up with connivance from some of the trustees within the Punchayat itself. The Late Rustom Tirandaz, the lion that he was, single handedly opposed this move within the BPP board room. The Orthodox were caught napping. They were disorganized and not united. DDD-AG helped the orthodox to unite and set up SDAG a group meant for preserving and strenghtening Dokhmanashini and also opposing the influential group. Once the orthodox woke up from their slumber and dispayed their wrath in public, it struck a death knell to the DDD-AG group. Not only did this group disappear into thin air but leading members of this group used the ancient system of Dokhmenashini for their own relatives and for themselves when their time came. After speaking against the system they did just the opposite. What term would you assign to such people ? Hippocracy at its best ! Now think. Would the inflential group not have taken over if they had been in majority ? The answer is obvious.
Lets come to the year 2008. In the recent BPP elections Berjis Desai had floated a group consisting of the top brass in the community and labelled them as the AFP. These were touted as Excellent human material and Unsurpassed trustee material. We all know what happened to this “material” when the election results were announced. Why ? The opposite party, the orthodox was in majority.
Lets now come to the present period January 14th, 2010. The Jame Jamshed which was once the bugal of the Anti orthodox now starts singing a different tune, thanks to a change of Editor. Why ? Influence of the majority reigns supreme. Gone are the days when High priests, trustees and reputed people were criticized and insulted openly without as much giving them a chance to defend themselves. Injustice prevailed for a short time when Ganamin forces ruled the roost. Now that Spenamin has taken over feel the fresh perfume that this publication emanates. I hear that Parsiana is also coming into the hands of the orthodox. Their reasoning is if you cant beat them, join them !
So friends based on the above draw your own conclusions.
Rustom, few of our liberal friends suggested that our prophet was the greatest reformer of all times. As such we cannot put them on the same mantle as our prophet, as it would mean insulting our prophet. So they have been assigned the adjective “Deformist” since they would like to deform what our prophet reformed.
Puff, have a look at this article —> http://tenets.parsizoroastrianism.com/FreedomOfChoice.pdf
You are right about multiple religions, the words used in the Gathas are Panch Takesh = 5 religions, Panch Ratu = 5 prophets.
About the kusti, the Avestan word is Aiwionghana
In case you would like to learn more about our religion, you may join our online religious group and ask all your queries which will be answered by genuine religious experts. You will be required to use your actual name, which please note.
You may write to me at behram24@yahoo.com
There is an error in entering my name Behram Dhabhar in the Name field. The mail is addressed to puff.
Why is my mail to Rustom not posted on the forum yet ?
SAF,
Can you or any boarder inform me for my information if AZA has got into Religious issues? To the best of my
knowledge it is engrossed in brick & mortar issues of the community. This query is being made since one who claims to be academically more intelligent has made a remark about AZA in this regard..
I do not agree with all of the Conservative’s views but, I speak now from personal experiences only.
Most children of the “Intermarrieds” abroad, practise TWO religions i.e. both their parents’ religions even AFTER their navjotes. After all, why would they turn away from one parent’s religion and follow only the other’s ? One such teenager constantly chides the Parsees that he/she will choose the religion where he/she is more accepted yet, continues to grab every opportunity that comes the way of Parsee/Zoroastrian kids.
One unfortunate aspect of this situation is that the “Intermarried’s ” children’s insecurities lead them to attack, exclude and isolate the children of two-Parsee parents from community gatherings. While the children of the “Intermarrieds” may choose between two religions as and when it suits them, we, who do not pander to their whims have no recourse but to withdraw from the community, and the ONE and ONLY religion that has been practised in good times or bad, in our families for generations !! ( Living abroad with a lack of Parsees/Zoroastrians living around us, it is just not enough to practice and impart the religion to your kids at home. They need to experience a sense of the community too).
Setting aside all arguments except for the practical, when the numbers are not there; to start accepting half- Zoroastrian and half- other religion members into the fold can only mean a faster, but more painful demise of the religion among the Parsees.(There may be a resurgence in Tajikistan,etc).
I am fully aware that should I have a daughter who married outside the religion, I would want her and her children to be allowed to fully practise our religion. Yet , I have no illusions about what it would mean for our religion in my family’s future
generations.
I hope the Parsees in India have the far-sightedness to realise that this may be a situation they find themselves in, one day and that they may be unwelcome guests at their own ” community” gatherings.
I too wonder if Delnavaz and Puff Pervez Avari are actually just one person. One posts a comment & the other immediately agrees/congratulates him on his wit
Behram, I tried searching credible sources on so called ‘Panch Takesh’ in Gatha… and there was nothing even remotely resembling it… So i very much doubt your source… ,
Besides FYI there are more than 15 religions recognized by the world community and not 5 http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm …
And regarding the so called five prophets… Koran clearly says Allah had sent 2000 prophets… not 5. Now what should we believe…Tenets of Zoroastrian content or Allah? Or are you trying to tell us that Allah was lying???!!
Anyway thank you very much now we know how credible your sources are!!
Do go on wondering and pondering but do not judge others by standards set up by netas of vast multitude ‘MAJORITY.’
One can easily identify the author of certain posts, e.g. True Reformist Zoroastrian and certain specific posts in the name of Gudi.
Asli Soorat Choopi Nahin Rahen.The style of writing speaks the name of the Original Author of such posts.
Wonder and ponder.
I shall hereafter compliment you on your platitudes so that others like you will assume that author of my post is one and the same person.
Another desperate cover up…of R N R.. about AZA only interested in flats…
Many know tha pseudo organisatiosn were cropped up to sort of entangle the ones that didnt want to change Zoroastrianism and their roots,on every corner…
Perhaps RNR Closes hs eyes to all the subtle support to Dhun Baria and open support to those who were anti dakhma but then later refuted and changed track to win elections..
No RNR , Dhongi, Piloo, saf etc etc do not close their eyes, they constantly modify their strategies to fool others…remember the dakhma issue, ..bad for health, unhygenic, demand for a compelet shut down, then when academically prove wrong, ask for a place within the premise, then again blackmail, belittle…election time , change track once again…
RNR n group can carry on their misinformation propoganda…and insult the common Parsis wisdom..
@Rohinton..
heres a simple statistics of how intermariage effects the furure…given our demographical conditions in India..and religious feelings and how others passionately continue their faith adds other catalysts to a small community dissapearing or fusing in the larger one..
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/will-your-grandchild-be-jewish-chart-graph.htm
Behram, It happens if you keep number of ids…However all three – Pervez Avari, Puff and You, have the same style of writing and hold identical views… It was not too difficult for us to guess that all three are the same person. However ironically you claimed to catch me with my pants down… and see you brought your own pants down yourself !! Kudos!!
Well, I tried searching for ‘Panch Takesh’ in Gatha… and there was nothing even remotely resembling it.
Next, FYI there are more than 15 religions recognized by the world community and not 5 http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm …
Now regarding the five prophets, will you plz name them… Im confused about who did you meant!!
I dont need to prove anything to a faceless character. You are welcome to a personal debate, where I shall share with you my evidence. But please dont ask me for proof of the existance of God, etc. That is not meant for non belevers like you who want a Pythogaras type of proof for everything……
Mr Saf, You dont appear to be that “Saf” in your choice of words. The language proves to the reader who is the idiot? Anyway , thanks for the compliment and your decision not to argue with me is running away from a good battle. What a loser !!!!!
Saf,
Cowards die many times before their death and according to me those who use Fake IDs and are shit scared declaring their actual identity are cowards. In case you are still guessing it refers to you and your deformist coterie.
Each and every member of the Traditional camp has declared his / her true identity. I speak for myself. I have given my correct name, surname and my email ID in case anyone wishes to contact me. I can also meet a person if need be to a religious debate. Can anyone from the deformist group come up even half way ? People like us do not have to resort to Fake Ids to get our message across. My name also appears on various other religious forums and websites which please note
As regards your questions, the fact that you have insulted my prophet and my religion makes me come to the conclusion that you are not a born Parsi Zarathushtri. You are here only to mock and ridicule the genuine lovers of the zoroastrian faith. Shame on you. It is a sin to discuss or teach anything vaguely connected to our religion with the likes of you. As such I will refrain form stooping to the low level that you have assigned yourself to.
@saf
Blind leading the blind. Keep patting each other on their backs. Thats about the only thing you are good at. Leave the religion and its explanations to the scholars and priests.
You mean you have no evidence to support your claim… therefore your claim is false. Thank you for proving yourself to us once again. In your own words ‘you are caught with your pants down!’
Haaaa…It might be a battle for you Mr.Don Quioxite PuffPervez Avari, but for me, YOU are the source of my entertainment. Its even entertaining to see you frustrated at me for not ‘biting your bait.. haaahaaaa .. So keep it going!!
i’m lovin’ it 
Anti Dhongidox, Sudreh-Kusti are pre Zoroastrian Aryan symbols. Wearing them doesn’t make anyone more zoroastrian just as not wearing them doesn’t make one less Zoroastrian.
Anti-Dhongi, the best part of their circus is, they write under multiple ids, fool themselves and claim to be in majority!!:D
(dear moderator, please delete the reply by me posted above at 12:32 pm as its a double post. Thank you]
Haaaa…It might be a battle for you Mr.Don Quioxite PuffPervez Avari, but for me, YOU are the source of my entertainment. Its so entertaining to see you frustrated at me for not ‘biting your bait.. haaahaaaa ..
So keep it going!! i’m lovin’ it
Anti Dhongidox, Sudreh-Kusti are pre Zoroastrian Aryan symbols. Wearing them doesn’t make anyone more zoroastrian just as not wearing them doesn’t make one less Zoroastrian.
Btw, im a firm believer of the GOD who sent you here as an entertainment for us.
It is amusing to read the self-styled Traditionalist failing to distinguish between AZA AND ARZ. But they will express their criticism neverthesless.
Those who talk endelessly about Maddo, Jaher and Baten have displayed their high standards by their posts, few of which I have reproduced as cut paste job.
1)”They can convert, intermarry, bury, burn, drown do what they please and there will be no one to point a finger at them”
2) 23 November 2009 at 8:41 pm #
“How do you guys want to be disposed ? Think fast cause your time is up ! I can see that from the crap that is spewed out on these bulletin boards. You can jump from a multistoried tower or drown in the Arabian Sea or better still just attach one of those Taliban bombs on your backside and pull the lever. Whooosh ! you will disintegrate in no time.
What a “dignified” way to dispose yourself.”
3) This one is so offensive that I would not like to read it. It is dated 27th ultiomo, if my memory serves me right.
4) Calling other deformists.
These are the ‘golden values’ inculcated in these persons.
I may stress that this portal had asked for registration of E Mail Id’s and my registration would be on records of the portal.
Now Ms/ Mr Puff,
I concede that Reliigion should be left for Scholars and Priests. But have the priests acted in a uniform way in identical situations?
Secondly, why your group does not give a categoric reply to a question raised somewher by another blogger if Dr. Antia is a Scholar or not and if he too is a High Priest or not.
Rustom,
Thank you for the link – I am well aware of the Jewish situation.
One point I would like to add, is that I am sure, these very
members of the Intermarried group abroad, DO NOT DARE to behave the way that they do in the Zoroastrian Community Centers; as when they are attending the Church, the Hindu Temple or the place of worship of their partners; irrespective of whether they are fully, or not fully accepted in that group.
Any attempt to try to prevent a follower of their spouse’s religion from attending their spouse’s place of worship would not be tolerated by that religious group. It is only with the easy going, peace-loving Parsee/Zoroastrian group that they may contemplate and act out their their harassment and intimidation.
Quoting William Shakespeare wont help.
Ignorance remains ignorance if one refuses to learn
It is amusing to read the self-styled Traditionalist failing to distinguish between AZA AND ARZ. But they will express their criticism neverthesless.
Those who talk endelessly about Maddo, Jaher and Baten have displayed their high standards by their posts, few of which I have reproduced as cut paste job.
1)”They can convert, intermarry, bury, burn, drown do what they please and there will be no one to point a finger at them”
2) 23 November 2009 at 8:41 pm #
“How do you guys want to be disposed ? Think fast cause your time is up ! I can see that from the crap that is spewed out on these bulletin boards. You can jump from a multistoried tower or drown in the Arabian Sea or better still just attach one of those Taliban bombs on your backside and pull the lever. Whooosh ! you will disintegrate in no time.
What a “dignified” way to dispose yourself.”
3) This one is so offensive that I would not like to read it. It is dated 27th ultiomo, if my memory serves me right.
4) Calling other deformists.
These are the ‘golden values’ inculcated in these persons.
I may stress that this portal had asked for registration of E Mail Id’s and my registration would be on records of the portal.
Now Ms/ Mr Puff,
I concede that Reliigion should be left for Scholars and Priests. But have the priests acted in a uniform way in identical situations?
Secondly, why your group does not give a categoric reply to a question raised somewher by another blogger if Dr. Antia is a Scholar or not and if he too is a High Priest or not.?
I think R but R has hit the nail on the head.My compliments to him/her.for pointing out to these hypocrite the specific ‘messages’ bearing the same word “Drown’. I too am tracing such ‘excreta for thoughts’ of these scholars under various names.Why they mention their full names only in certain select messages is that they want compliments from another ‘Scholar’ so as to generate a false impression of ‘vast following’. If RJ wants to talk with BD, he can do so in Five Gardens or over the phone instead of using this platform but it is the cheap & free publicity that is the real aim.
But SAF,
Does this lead us anywhere? Name calling by the so called ‘Scholars’ is simply childish and reveals their ‘maturity’.
One wiseacre says that ‘blind is leading another blind’. Let us call his contributions on the blog as ‘exchange of notions with a fictitious Id. We ought not to stoop to their level.
Except for their hurling uncomplimentary adjectives at those who question their baseless arguments, what else can they do.Empty arguments are invariably devoid of logic. And one senile claims he provides ‘proofs’ which in reality are ‘name calling’ and another ‘genius’ calling the thinking section as deformists because such persons do not follow the crap these Scholars puke.
Suppose any blogger mentions full name, parent’s names, address, date of birth, his/her qualifications,occupation etc, what these “Scholars ‘ are capable of doing to them? And they delude themselves in to believing that we are too scared of them. Such tactics can work in an automobile workshop.
I repeat, Pirojsha was correct. Just ignore them. Megalomania is often accompanied with senility. And lastly dole out compliments to Delnavaz for her platitudes for ensuring better confusion.
Mr. Moderator,
Moderator,
One humble suggestion. Parsi Khabar is read even by members of sister communities. And the type of language in various messages, (mostly derogatory) only tarnishes the image of the Community. My suggestion is to impose total black out of Religious Topics so that neither side gets an opportunity to indulge in mudslinging.Only social issues may be put up.
Again yesterday, another Religious issue “Life After death….” has been put up.
Do we not have more pressing problems other than religious. In our case, the religion instead of uniting is causing splits and factions. Is this trend desirable.? Better discuss mundane issues than issues that cause religious divide.Pl give a thought.
Regards.
Behram/Rohinton/Delnavaz/Puff…et al,
I fully endorse the views expressed in your replies to that faceless coward Saf. Such jokers have no fig leaf to hide their…… Not only have we caught them with their pants down but also exposed their naked falsehoods. I am thrilled to know that all of us are one and the same person. Shows the level of intelligence in these atheists who are desperately trying to kill the religion. He who laughs last is the winner…..so let us keep going at them and enjoy their discomfiture….
Yes, Anti Dhongi…. You are right… These magalomaniacs deserve to be ignored…
All that i did was to point out that Koran contradicts their version of Zoroastrian text…And Behram D starts throwing tantrums!! Well… these are the types of crappy scholars we are supposed to rely on for our knowledge of religion!! At least it proves beyond doubt how fake and uninformed they really are… But interestingly that doesn’t stop them from harboring mammoth size egos in their swollen empty heads.
RnR…that was an awesome bout !!
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