And having a black skin, look Indian and your ancestors for over centuries mixed with Dalits (untouchables) make you a true Persian? Keep on dreaming - haven’t you heard that “Envy is a Deadly Sin”?

“. . actually maintained their identity. . and abstained from mix marriage . . ”

You must be kidding me! Read 2004 mitochondrial DNA (matrilineal) results by Quintana-Murci (”Where West Meets East: The Complex mtDNA Landscape of the Southwest and Central Asian Corridor” in American Journal of Human Genetics 74 (5): p840), which confirms Parsis are no longer sharing DNA with Iranians, but with Gujratis! This is while in the same study as well as Cambridge University, have shown that modern Iranians (which majority are Muslims) having the same DNA as their ancient Zoroastrian ancestors!

This also confirmed ion Rivayat, which between 15th and 17th centuries non-Zoroastrians (the Untouchables) were accepted into the fold.

Nonetheless, you can claim to be a Zoroastrian, but most definitely not a Persian. Your ancestors may have been Persian - by NOT YOU – you are an Indian as other Indians –and IRnqians may not be Zoroastrian any more, but they ARE STILL PERSIAN!

ps. my name id Paolo - not Paoblo! I’m an Italian who married to Zoroastrian from Yazd and have converted to Zoroastrianism.

I can confirm Paolo’s statement. Various DNA tests have shown that the Parsis in India possess a variety of genes, strongest among the women are Gujarati genes. It is also a known fact, that many Parsi men used to have Gujarati mistresses. Parsis, however, do not like to talk about this matter. You find a lot of dark skinned Parsis, which again confirms the findings of the DNA tests and the fact of mixed marriages. And it is a fact that Iranians in Iran still have “Persian DNA”.
I, for my part, do not care about DNA, since I do not consider myself a nationalist. But it is amazing how some Parsis try to be more Persian than Iranians and how some people can not differentiate between faith, language and DNA. Many Iranians consider Azarbaijanis to be Turks, but recent test have shown that people in this region have “Persian DNA”. Again a fact that shows there are differences between languages, ethnicity, faith and nationality. Those people adopted a language but preserved their “DNA”, now are they better Persians than Parsis, or are they Iranians and are Parsis Indians?
I do not see any benefit in discussing this matter, but unfortunately some Parsis are obsessed by it and stick to some very outdated ideas.

Right…acccording to some n gobi..Parsis are dark skinned….!!! acccording to some Parsis are not persians!!
According to these Persianism is about burkha wearing..and replacing 5 gahs with namaaz.. and consecration of fire with either mecca or cross..depending on who is claiming the Zoroastrian grandeur…
According to these…banning the term’ women from national t.v is persianism..banning women from soccer is persianism!!
These nullify the words of Pof such as Mary boyce who quote’ “Either a few Moslems settled on the outskirts of a Zoroastrian village, or one or two Zoroastrian families adopted Islam. Once the dominant faith had made a breach, it pressed in remorselessly, like a rising tide. More Moslems came, and soon a small mosque was built, which attracted yet others. As long as Zoroastrians remained in the majority, their lives were tolerable; but once the Moslems became the more numerous, a petty but pervasive harassment was apt to develop. This was partly verbal, with taunts about fire-worship, and comments on how few Zoroastrians there were in the world, and how many Moslems, who must therefore posses the truth; and also on how many material advantages lay with Islam. The harassment was often also physical; boys fought, and gangs of youth waylaid and bullied individual Zoroastrians. ”..and see the tormentors as the true persians…
Perhaps Gobi and Paoblo…see the custom of jailing film makers of ancient Iranian last rites who discovered mass graves asd ‘Persianism’…
Gobi should read Yezdegard 111’s letter to Omar where he shows how omar was ignorant of facts and history….maybe Gobi’s knopwledge of what true Persianism is MAY increase if he reads that letter…
Some can claim that taimur was a persian…and some bihar since it has persian schools…some can c,\laim that the women in kisseh e vairav were not persians since it happened in India and accepted guj kings conditions for social change to protect their ethnicity n religion.. Some can say that the zoroastrians of India are christians as they use spoon and fork whilst eating.just liek they take advantage of language and dress change we adapted in india..againt non persian culture by persian speaking people…

Hitler said a lie big enough can be taken as truth,,and we have live examples of such…

Perhaps Yezdegards 3’s letter to Omar can throw light on such misapprehensions just as Omar faced about the persian culture and faith…but then yezdegards lineage can be termed as chinese by those who islamise Persianism.
After all the grandeur of Persia though destroyed..is envied by the destroyers

-wonder if the london Musuem keeps fakes, claimed by some…the letter by yezdegard, the Original copy of this letter (632 AD - 651 AD) is in London Museum -

As faras claiming that deliking DNA and my claim about the plaunderers of the persian faith..it becomes simpler again if one undestood history.and history shows that persianism and its faith was destroyed by arabs and other migrants that lived in Persian contoled lands….so if thsese people came owerthrew the persians..ofcourse converted some….but mainly maimed , butchered and raped..and some having escaped….then where did the DNA of such go? or now as burkha is claimed to be Persianism…the DNA of the plunderers is also claimed to be Persian!!!

Also ofcourse close eyes to the fact of bondage of the Indo Persian–aryan race….

Some can suggest that the arab pop of egypt share the same DNA with nefretetti’s race..
One can now claim that the chineese are tibetans and tibetans are assamese….

Anyways..My first point still stands validated..that what can be expected from those who butchered Cyrus’s faith…and that the destroyers of the Persian faith themselves were so awed by what they destroyed that they adapted to Persianism…and claim its grandeur….
Oh yes..and the original persians i.e zoroastrians of Iran STILL lay subdued since the claimers of Persianism..deem this fit!!

looks like you guys are having an argument about features and DNA etc. there are much bigger issues that need our attention, especially at a time like this when there are less than a lakh Parsis worldwide. there is really no point about going back in history and pointing fingers at who destroyed whose empire. its better we deal with the issues of TODAY.