Violence at Election Time: Unbecoming of a Parsi

Date

June 27, 2011

Post by

arZan

UPDATE 02: Find below an email from Viraf Mehta, son of Trustee Dinshaw Mehta, giving a detailed account of what transpired. It also contains the scans of the NC filed with the Byculla Police Station in the aftermath of the incident. And the letter subsequently requesting the withdrawl of the same NC. This adds a lot of legitimacy to what Yasmin Sanjana and Arzan Ghadially wrote in about, earlier.
The one optimistic move we take from this is that the two Trustees involved have decided to “bury the hatchet” for the overall good of the community.
These scans were forwarded to us via email. They also contained medical prescriptions and ECG reports, that have not been put up here to respect the privacy of the person involved.

 

 

UPDATE 01: We just received a scanned copy of a letter co-signed by Dinshaw Mehta and Jimmy Mistry that the accusations made against each other are herewith withdrawn and that no one beat up someone else. Continue reading below to see the scanned copy image.

 

 

The run-off elections to the lone seat of the Bombay Parsi Punchayat Trusteeship are under way. A lot has been said and expressed by those for and against the candidates in the fray. Emails have been finding their way to Parsi inboxes the world over; containing opinions about why a particular trustee-candidate is better than the other. In a rising incidence of intolerance; many of these emails contain language that is unparliamentary by any and all standards. And more importantly; pass judgments about issues that have no factual basis.

If all this anger and animosity stopped at the email level or in comments on this website; the world would be better off. But that does not seem to be the case from two independent reports by two Parsi Khabar readers.

The events in question hinge around the round of elections on Sunday June 26, 2011 at the Rustom Baug polling center.

The two accounts are as below and have been edited for clarity and focus. The actual minute-by-minute and blow-by-blow accont (pun intended) may differ slightly as per each individuals perspective. However the general issue at hand is apalling; despicable; sad; depressing and one unbecoming of us Parsis. If this is the way we conduct ourselves; we will lose all the goodwill that our ancestors worked so hard to build and uphold.

I am a Parsi; and I am ashamed by what is happening.

 

Yasmin Sanjana writes in:

Yesterday at Rustom Baug BPP elections a shocking incident took place. Jimmy Mistry and his body guards physically assaulted the Chairman, Mr Dinshaw Mehta and his sons, Viraf and Hormuz.
There were two car loads of hoodlums who joined in the attack with wooden and iron rods.  It soon became a free-for-all. It is obvious that this was all pre-planned and by the time the police arrived, they had all disbursed. Another body guard went up to Mrs Mehta and told her "Ye Viraf to main uda Daloonga!" (I will kill Viraf)  On hearing this Mrs Panzy Mehta fainted and collapsed on the floor.  She was immediately hospitalized at Masina Hospital and is presently in a state of shock and depression.  Ofcourse, Viraf’s life is also in danger.

All this while,Kayan Khojeste Mistree is happily clicking photographs of the hapless Mrs Mehta and her son Hormuz who  rushed to assist his mother.

Jimmy Mistry ran into one of the Rustom Baug buildings, his body guards forming a cordon, Yazdi Desai ran into the polling booth …. These are the type of spineless people in WAPIZ/BPP whom we had earlier elected on being duped by their talks on religion.  We now know their double standards! After all that Dinshaw Mehta and Bardoli Jarthosti Anjuman did for  WAPIZ this is what we have been rewarded with! 

Moreover, Areez Khambatta calls up Bardoli Anjuman President, Homi  Pithawalla and swears at him in the most tapori and foulest language.  Does our religion allow us to do this?? We have  nothing personal against Anahita but we are definitely against WAPIZ and their policies.  They surely have a hidden agenda  which is obvious for all to see.  This is the most degrading and low level that we Parsis have stooped to and it has left the community in a state of shock.

 

Arzan J. Ghadially writes:

Jimmy Mistry and his Goons attack the Chairman of the BPP and his family at Rustom Baug.

The self acclaimed Business man Jimmy Mistry and his goons beat up Dinshaw Mehta’s Children at Rustam Buag. Dinshawji’s  wife under a shock was admitted to Masina Hospital and is now out of Danger.

It is sad and disgusting to note the kind of Goondas on Board of the BPP. Until last election and until last month Jimmy Mistry claimed Dinshaw was a honest person which can be evidenced in the media writing and his quotes now suddenly does a volte face as Dinshaw is not in favor of the Gher nu Gambhar Yezdi wife Anaihita’s standing for elections.

No matter who is right or wrong one should not retort to such hooliganism and beat up people. Jimmy has so many enemies that he has had to appoint Body Guards to protect him. Just because he wants Anaihita to win the elections and is busy promting her;  does he have to indulge in this third rate goondagiri and level false and baseless charges?

The time has now come for a peoples movement to throw the entire BPP Board out and hold fresh elections since the cost will remain the same if the candidate is one or the whole Board of 7 trustees. Look at the present Board of Trsutees, see the records of the BPP and you will realize how many days and how many hours do some of these Trustees whom we have voted work  for the community and attend board meetings.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND WE REMOVE THE TRASH FROM THE BPP and bring in learned cultured and well mannerd matured people from the community instead of the present lot who are like viruses eating away in to our trust. and giving our community a bad name.

THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE. VOTE FOR AN EDUCATED PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TRUSTS ARE RUN RATHER THAN VOTE FOR SOME SOCIAL WORKER.

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UPDATE: June 29, 2011 4:30 AM

letter

 

UPDATE: June 30 11:00 PM

Here is the email from Viraf Mehta, son of Trustee Dinshaw Mehta.

Dear  Friends,

It pains me a lot to see how the incidents of Sunday, June 26  at Rustom Baug are being twisted. The latest mail by Karl Sahukar has forced me  to come out and clarify this malafide attempt by the Wapiz team to politicize  and manipulate a sad incident within our community.

The incident took  place at around 4:30pm at Rustom Baug on Sunday, June 26. The facts relating to  that are as under:

It was  reported to us that Trustee Jimmy Mistry had been telling people in Dadar Parsi  Colony that my father, Chairman Dinshaw Mehta, is a "chor" (thief). The rumour  was that Mr. Zareer Bhatena had allegedly bribed Mr. Mehta for the sale of a  plot of land in Panthaky Baug, and therefore people should vote for Anahita  Desai.

Mr.  Zareer Bhatena and Mr. Dinshaw Mehta confronted Mr. Jimmy Mistry for a  clarification on these false accusations that were being made against them.  Jimmy categorically stated that this is election time and right to speech cannot  be denied to anyone.  A heated  exchange of words took place between Zareer, Jimmy and my father.  During  this interaction, my father got very upset and agitated that a man, almost as  young as his son was maligning his name. After giving over 25 years of his life  to the service of our community, his name was being slandered, and that too just  to garner votes for Anahita. .

Seeing my father in this agitated state,  Mr. Jimmy Mistry walked away and came to my brother, Hormuz, and myself and told  us to tell our father to calm down. We were naturally upset as well on hearing  these rumors. I don’t think there is any son in the world that will stand by and  see his father insulted.

Yes, tempers between Jimmy Mistry, Hormuz and me  did rise, but yet no one got physical. I put my palm on Jimmy’s shoulder to  explain to him that what was going around in Dadar Parsi Colony was wrong. But  before I could say anything further, one of his bodyguards rushed at  me and pushed me away and told me to keep my distance.

On seeing this,  our supporters got involved and moved that bodyguard away. By then, tempers and  emotions on both sides were at a high. The bodyguards were being excessively  aggressive with the Parsi crowd throwing their muscle power around and then  supporters and volunteers from both sides got charged up and a scuffle broke  out.

Please note, we did not raise our hands on Jimmy Mistry nor did he  hit us.

On being moved aside, the bodyguard pointed at me and said. "  Usko main chorunga nahin , usko main maar daloonga" (I will not leave him – I  will kill him). Unfortunately, my mother was standing in the same area and heard  the bodyguard point at me and say this.

On hearing this she had a nervous  breakdown and fainted on the lawns of Rustom Baug in front of a huge crowd. All  of our attention and focus was immediately shifted to my mother, and we were  trying to make her conscious again. She was slurring  and frothing at the mouth and couldn’t  open her eyes. We all panicked and immediately took her to Masina hospital for  medical care where the doctors were trying to bring her back to  consciousness. 

Thereafter  while at the hospital, a group of 15 to 20 non-Parsi goons entered Rustom Baug  who said that they were Jimmy’s bodyguards and began to threaten the Parsi  people at the venue.  Our supporters  were fed up of non-Parsis creating trouble in a Parsi Colony, during a Parsi  election meant only for Parsi voters and a scuffle ensued. Luckily at that time,  Mr. Vispi Kapadia from Rustom Baug came down from his premises who with his  influence called for a police van and got 6 of these non-Parsi bodyguards  arrested. They were taken and kept at the police station till 9pm.

We did  not want to make matters worse nor did we want our community affairs splashed  across the commercial newspapers.  So we did not file a complaint. 

When  we took my mother home from Masina Hospital, she was still in a state of  shock. Our family doctor was called and he put my mother on heavy sedatives. She  was still not over what the bodyguard said and kept repeating it over and over  and insisted I file a police complaint to protect myself. So I went to Byculla  police station and filed a complaint against Jimmy’s bodyguard who threatened my  life.

That  night we got a call from Mr. Vispi Kapadia saying that what had happened was  very tragic and not good for the community.

So my father, Dinshaw Mehta,  brother Hormuz and I met with Mr. Vispi Kapadia and Mr. Farokh Wadia at 1am that  night. They requested us to come to an amicable solution. We agreed and they  thereafter called Mr. Jimmy Mistry, who came with Parvez Damania and a few of  his supporters, at the ITC Hotel.

We all agreed that this was a very  unfortunate and tragic incident which went out of hand and does not show our  community in good light, especially when the Trustees of the Apex body  themselves are squabbling. We also did not want our community issues to be  blasted across cosmopolitan newspapers.

So  while Jimmy and my father agreed to give a signed joint clarification asking for  peace in the community, I too agreed to give a letter to the Byculla Police  Station stating that we had met with Jimmy, and had amicably come to a solution,  so the matter can now be considered close and the complaint withdrawn. 

It  saddens me how these facts are now being distorted by Wapiz members. When Jimmy  and Dinshaw have agreed to bring peace and unity into the community, WAPIZ is  trying to create another divide. They are politicizing this event to try and  garner votes for their candidate. Tanaz Parekh, active Wapiz member and campaign  manager for Anahita Desai, calls up my aunt, Yasmin Sanjana and tells her that  Pansy Mehta, my mother, was just doing natak (she was acting). That she chose  the right time to faint and had her photographers at the right place at the  right time.

I find  this shameful. God forbid this was to happen to her mother or her children, I  wonder how she would feel. To insinuate we would use our mother for something  like this is very unbecoming of a Parsi.

Then  Karl Sahukar, who obviously is mis-informed, sends out an email telling people  that my mother was never taken to Masina Hospital. That she was taken home. May I  please request Karl to get his facts straight. My mother was immediately taken  in for an ECG. After the doctors calmed her down and stabilized her pressure, we  were allowed to take her home. Karl further says this was stunt just to stop the  elections. If that was the intention then the incident would have taken place  early morning and not at the end of the day.

Karl goes on to tell people that we are besmirching the fair name  of Kaiyan Mistree, son of Khojeste Mistree, as well as Wapiz. Is Karl aware that  my own brother Hormuz saw Kaiyan,  take pictures and videos of my mother in that distressed state, instead  of rushing to her aid. My brother was mortified and couldn’t believe how low one  would stoop during elections. 

It is  understandable that Karl will try and twist the facts, he is an ardent Wapiz  supporter and is one of four of Anahita’s volunteer permitted to enter the  election enclosure. But to blatantly lie about my family, my mother’s health, my  safety and the events of Sunday is just being dishonest.

The  Joint letter which was signed was to bring peace and harmony back to the  community and put the incident at Rustom Baug behind us. It was signed by two  adults who realized that such events should not happen again as it puts the  community in bad light. It was not signed for manipulation by Wapiz members. 

The  statements in the joint letter were made in the best interest of the community.  I was present during the entire discussion and hence it pains me to see the  intent of the letter being misconstrued by others.

In the  joint letter, the statement “neither side has hit anybody or assaulted anybody”  is stated to imply that neither Jimmy, nor my father nor me, raised our hands on  each other. There were lots of rumours floating around that we hit Jimmy or that  Jimmy pushed my father or punched me. These are all fictitious. Neither of us  raised our hands on each other.

The  statement "the accusations made against each other are herewith withdrawn" is to  imply that the rumours going about in Dadar about the Chairman Mr. Dinshaw Mehta  are false and malafide and hence withdrawn. It is also to note that the messages  being sent by very emotional and enthusiastic supporters might have mentioned  rifles, revolvers, hockey sticks etc. This is incorrect as these weapons were  never present. But this doesn’t take away from the fact that the rest of events  as mentioned earlier did take place and are true in their entirety.

I do  not write this email to get any sympathy nor am I using this as an election tool  by any standards. I was upset to see how the Wapiz members were deviously  manipulating the Sunday events to create more friction within the community. I  was also very upset to see how my mother’s health was being made a mockery off  and so I decided to lay down the facts . There was a lot of speculation of what  happened and I felt that I had to write to my community and clear their doubts.  Trust me, it takes a toll on one’s family, and is not something you wish for on  others.

I am  not very proud of what happened on Sunday, which is why I sought to put an end  to this. I do hope that this email of mine is the last on this matter. I wish we  do not hear or speak any more of what went down last Sunday. It was an  unfortunate act, with egos and tempers flying high, but better sense has  prevailed upon all of us and the matter is resolved. Let us not try to rake it  up again for personal gain or election gimmicks.

The  emails of Viraf Kapadia, forwarded by Dinshaw Tamboly,  Arzan J Ghadially,  the postings by Mickie Sorabjee and the email sent by my aunt Yasmin  Kersi Sanjana were infact quite factual. No matter how much Karl wants to prove  them wrong, they carried the truth. Yes, some mails and sms’ did have a little  fabrication to it, but that is just emotions taking over an individual. While I  hope I have clarified and cleared a lot of doubts that have been created, I do  want to thank these and other individuals who have stood by me and my family  through this time and especially for those of you who  have prayed for my mother’s speedy  recovery.

I  would not be surprised if the Wapiz’s Page in the Free Press Journal this Friday  carries a write up with photographs about what happened in Rustom Baug. If they  feel this will help the cause of Anahita to become a Trustee so be it. 

But  for the sake of communal harmony, I do hope better sense prevails upon them. 

Thank  you for reading patiently.

Sincerely,

Viraf  Mehta

NC in Byculla Station-1

withdrawal of NC-1

Receipt from Masina Hospital-1

89 Comments

  1. Phirozaban

    An Organisation named WAPIZ has proved  for Bombay Parsis to be a greatest curse much worse than  disputes, if any with sister communities. Ironically, whenever and wherever the Patron Trustee viz its owner is present, there is commotion. As for Ghadially’s  suggestion for another election, I disagree. Trust management has to be left to Donors and at best appoint an Ombudsman to oversee the Trustees. That is democratic enough. The use of money power and muscle-men  has replaced the age old system of appointment of influentials thru contacts. But the latter system did not put the community to shame. The community has been subjected to overdose of futile litigation caused by instigation of  Trustees belonging to this rotten Organisation. The moment the system of Adult Franchise is discarded, this organisation will slip into oblivion. I would welcome any suggestion or  even critical analysis of  my suggestion.

  2. Phirozaban

    An Organisation named WAPIZ has proved  for Bombay Parsis to be a greatest curse much worse than  disputes, if any with sister communities. Ironically, whenever and wherever the Patron Trustee viz its owner is present, there is commotion. As for Ghadially’s  suggestion for another election, I disagree. Trust management has to be left to Donors and at best appoint an Ombudsman to oversee the Trustees. That is democratic enough. The use of money power and muscle-men  has replaced the age old system of appointment of influentials thru contacts. But the latter system did not put the community to shame. The community has been subjected to overdose of futile litigation caused by instigation of  Trustees belonging to this rotten Organisation. The moment the system of Adult Franchise is discarded, this organisation will slip into oblivion. I would welcome any suggestion or  even critical analysis of  my suggestion.

  3. Phirozaban

    An Organisation named WAPIZ has proved  for Bombay Parsis to be a greatest curse much worse than  disputes, if any with sister communities. Ironically, whenever and wherever the Patron Trustee viz its owner is present, there is commotion. As for Ghadially’s  suggestion for another election, I disagree. Trust management has to be left to Donors and at best appoint an Ombudsman to oversee the Trustees. That is democratic enough. The use of money power and muscle-men  has replaced the age old system of appointment of influentials thru contacts. But the latter system did not put the community to shame. The community has been subjected to overdose of futile litigation caused by instigation of  Trustees belonging to this rotten Organisation. The moment the system of Adult Franchise is discarded, this organisation will slip into oblivion. I would welcome any suggestion or  even critical analysis of  my suggestion.

  4. Phirozaban

    An Organisation named WAPIZ has proved  for Bombay Parsis to be a greatest curse much worse than  disputes, if any with sister communities. Ironically, whenever and wherever the Patron Trustee viz its owner is present, there is commotion. As for Ghadially’s  suggestion for another election, I disagree. Trust management has to be left to Donors and at best appoint an Ombudsman to oversee the Trustees. That is democratic enough. The use of money power and muscle-men  has replaced the age old system of appointment of influentials thru contacts. But the latter system did not put the community to shame. The community has been subjected to overdose of futile litigation caused by instigation of  Trustees belonging to this rotten Organisation. The moment the system of Adult Franchise is discarded, this organisation will slip into oblivion. I would welcome any suggestion or  even critical analysis of  my suggestion.

  5. Phirozaban

    An Organisation named WAPIZ has proved  for Bombay Parsis to be a greatest curse much worse than  disputes, if any with sister communities. Ironically, whenever and wherever the Patron Trustee viz its owner is present, there is commotion. As for Ghadially’s  suggestion for another election, I disagree. Trust management has to be left to Donors and at best appoint an Ombudsman to oversee the Trustees. That is democratic enough. The use of money power and muscle-men  has replaced the age old system of appointment of influentials thru contacts. But the latter system did not put the community to shame. The community has been subjected to overdose of futile litigation caused by instigation of  Trustees belonging to this rotten Organisation. The moment the system of Adult Franchise is discarded, this organisation will slip into oblivion. I would welcome any suggestion or  even critical analysis of  my suggestion.

  6. Appletart

    Could not get the name of the person who wrote the article above. but these are just my views. i do not know this rustom baug incident, but i voted for both the elections and i can tell you for a fact that those who were chosen from the last election list were the best of the worst. and this time also fr the 4 who have stood its only between anaita and cama. if u want to trash all the trustees then first get good people to stand and contest. its the same as india elections. all this publicity will happen during elections all at each others throat (as seen last time too) but as soon as its over and either of them are elected, it will end and all will run the office professionally. i believe if you do not knwo anaita and cama personally then u vote fr the party they stand for-  traditionalism v/s liberals. bec thats what this election is reduced too. so vote wisely and hope the results are for the good cause.

  7. July Derek

    Our BPP elections have become a joke. Instead of being the so called “enlightened and educated” community, we are just behaving like the masses do during our Indian elections.

    One trustee sitting for 21 year!!! Even the USA President can be elected for a max of 8 years. Dinners and buffet with drinks?! Is that any better than Karunanidhi’s free color Tv’s to buy votes?

    Voters are herded in buses for voting. Just like the uneducated villagers are herded for mass voting in rural India.

    Religious fanaticism? What the hell do these trustees think they are? What do the trustees have to do with our Religion. Someone please tell these jokers that they are the trustees to the BPP funds and properties, nothing more than that.

    Trustees promoting their sons/daughters/wives/husbands. What has this become a family business now? We dont have enough competent people that we have to elect a dead trustees wife or another trustees wife?

    Trustees spend crores in these elections. What do they expect in return? Do they expect to gain a healthy ROI from becoming a trustee? Is our BPP becoming like the corrupt Indian Politicians?

    We need some BPP election reforms and fast. No more than 2 terms, no dinners/drinks/gifts to bribe the voters. Total transparency of the working of the BPP.

    Its shameful that a sitting trustee had to file a RTI for the minutes of BPP meetings!!!! What is going on?

  8. Anonymous

    this is really shameful.
    the bpp elections are elections to choose trustees to the highest administrative organisation of the parsees..we want to have trustees we can look up to…and what ARE THESE MEN  DOING?
     
    please, please, lets have some decorum and decency.
    please, lets have fair elections..and controlled tempers.

  9. Appletart

    Could not get the name of the person who wrote the article above. but these are just my views. i do not know this rustom baug incident, but i voted for both the elections and i can tell you for a fact that those who were chosen from the last election list were the best of the worst. and this time also fr the 4 who have stood its only between anaita and cama. if u want to trash all the trustees then first get good people to stand and contest. its the same as india elections. all this publicity will happen during elections all at each others throat (as seen last time too) but as soon as its over and either of them are elected, it will end and all will run the office professionally. i believe if you do not knwo anaita and cama personally then u vote fr the party they stand for-  traditionalism v/s liberals. bec thats what this election is reduced too. so vote wisely and hope the results are for the good cause.

  10. Appletart

    Could not get the name of the person who wrote the article above. but these are just my views. i do not know this rustom baug incident, but i voted for both the elections and i can tell you for a fact that those who were chosen from the last election list were the best of the worst. and this time also fr the 4 who have stood its only between anaita and cama. if u want to trash all the trustees then first get good people to stand and contest. its the same as india elections. all this publicity will happen during elections all at each others throat (as seen last time too) but as soon as its over and either of them are elected, it will end and all will run the office professionally. i believe if you do not knwo anaita and cama personally then u vote fr the party they stand for-  traditionalism v/s liberals. bec thats what this election is reduced too. so vote wisely and hope the results are for the good cause.

  11. July Derek

    Our BPP elections have become a joke. Instead of being the so called “enlightened and educated” community, we are just behaving like the masses do during our Indian elections.

    One trustee sitting for 21 year!!! Even the USA President can be elected for a max of 8 years. Dinners and buffet with drinks?! Is that any better than Karunanidhi’s free color Tv’s to buy votes?

    Voters are herded in buses for voting. Just like the uneducated villagers are herded for mass voting in rural India.

    Religious fanaticism? What the hell do these trustees think they are? What do the trustees have to do with our Religion. Someone please tell these jokers that they are the trustees to the BPP funds and properties, nothing more than that.

    Trustees promoting their sons/daughters/wives/husbands. What has this become a family business now? We dont have enough competent people that we have to elect a dead trustees wife or another trustees wife?

    Trustees spend crores in these elections. What do they expect in return? Do they expect to gain a healthy ROI from becoming a trustee? Is our BPP becoming like the corrupt Indian Politicians?

    We need some BPP election reforms and fast. No more than 2 terms, no dinners/drinks/gifts to bribe the voters. Total transparency of the working of the BPP.

    Its shameful that a sitting trustee had to file a RTI for the minutes of BPP meetings!!!! What is going on?

  12. July Derek

    Our BPP elections have become a joke. Instead of being the so called “enlightened and educated” community, we are just behaving like the masses do during our Indian elections.

    One trustee sitting for 21 year!!! Even the USA President can be elected for a max of 8 years. Dinners and buffet with drinks?! Is that any better than Karunanidhi’s free color Tv’s to buy votes?

    Voters are herded in buses for voting. Just like the uneducated villagers are herded for mass voting in rural India.

    Religious fanaticism? What the hell do these trustees think they are? What do the trustees have to do with our Religion. Someone please tell these jokers that they are the trustees to the BPP funds and properties, nothing more than that.

    Trustees promoting their sons/daughters/wives/husbands. What has this become a family business now? We dont have enough competent people that we have to elect a dead trustees wife or another trustees wife?

    Trustees spend crores in these elections. What do they expect in return? Do they expect to gain a healthy ROI from becoming a trustee? Is our BPP becoming like the corrupt Indian Politicians?

    We need some BPP election reforms and fast. No more than 2 terms, no dinners/drinks/gifts to bribe the voters. Total transparency of the working of the BPP.

    Its shameful that a sitting trustee had to file a RTI for the minutes of BPP meetings!!!! What is going on?

  13. Mahiyar Keravala

    Jimmy Mistry is right … Dinshaw Mehta is a chor … but then this is the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Sugget that we (the public) fire all the trustees and appoint a fresh lot of decent hardworking people who work and care for the community rather than any individual group

  14. Siloo Kapadia

    Unbecoming of a Parsi?  Kappal!  It is unbecoming of anyone, deekra!  It is shameful and disgraceful and shocking.  I hope such a thing will never happen again!

  15. maria_b

    Just shocking to read the going-ons in the BPP elections. The BPP Election Rules need to be modified immediately.  1. Max. Tenure for a Trustee should be fixed for 10 years and NO more. 2. NO TWO  persons from the same family or relations be eligible to contest in the interest of the Trust, because say what you, practically its ‘you scratch my back, I scratch your back’.   

  16. Anonymous

    this is really shameful.
    the bpp elections are elections to choose trustees to the highest administrative organisation of the parsees..we want to have trustees we can look up to…and what ARE THESE MEN  DOING?
     
    please, please, lets have some decorum and decency.
    please, lets have fair elections..and controlled tempers.

  17. arnavaz_h

    this is really shameful.
    the bpp elections are elections to choose trustees to the highest administrative organisation of the parsees..we want to have trustees we can look up to…and what ARE THESE MEN  DOING?
     
    please, please, lets have some decorum and decency.
    please, lets have fair elections..and controlled tempers.

  18. Barak Aga

    IT WAS THE ‘COALITION OF THE WILLING’
    NOW THE BLOOD IS SPILLING
    SENSING A ROUT
    THE DAGGERS CAME OUT
    DADRAWALLA IS SURELY GRINNING.

  19. Mahiyar Keravala

    Jimmy Mistry is right … Dinshaw Mehta is a chor … but then this is the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Sugget that we (the public) fire all the trustees and appoint a fresh lot of decent hardworking people who work and care for the community rather than any individual group

  20. Mahiyar Keravala

    Jimmy Mistry is right … Dinshaw Mehta is a chor … but then this is the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Sugget that we (the public) fire all the trustees and appoint a fresh lot of decent hardworking people who work and care for the community rather than any individual group

  21. Mahiyar Keravala

    Jimmy Mistry is right … Dinshaw Mehta is a chor … but then this is the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Sugget that we (the public) fire all the trustees and appoint a fresh lot of decent hardworking people who work and care for the community rather than any individual group

  22. Siloo Kapadia

    Unbecoming of a Parsi?  Kappal!  It is unbecoming of anyone, deekra!  It is shameful and disgraceful and shocking.  I hope such a thing will never happen again!

  23. Siloo Kapadia

    Unbecoming of a Parsi?  Kappal!  It is unbecoming of anyone, deekra!  It is shameful and disgraceful and shocking.  I hope such a thing will never happen again!

  24. maria_b

    Just shocking to read the going-ons in the BPP elections. The BPP Election Rules need to be modified immediately.  1. Max. Tenure for a Trustee should be fixed for 10 years and NO more. 2. NO TWO  persons from the same family or relations be eligible to contest in the interest of the Trust, because say what you, practically its ‘you scratch my back, I scratch your back’.   

  25. maria_b

    Just shocking to read the going-ons in the BPP elections. The BPP Election Rules need to be modified immediately.  1. Max. Tenure for a Trustee should be fixed for 10 years and NO more. 2. NO TWO  persons from the same family or relations be eligible to contest in the interest of the Trust, because say what you, practically its ‘you scratch my back, I scratch your back’.   

  26. Mickie Sorabjee

    June 28, 2011.
    WAPIZ is facing a crisis of credibility in the background of acrimonious elections for the vacant seat of BPP Trusteeship. It will be interesting to read in their next ad page how they portray the shameful fracas at Rustom Baug and absolve themselves as silent spectators alongside their failure to control/denounce the deplorable street fight hooliganism of their allied partner and sitting BPP Trustee. What next will this brazen troika introduce our peace loving, once dignifiedly harmonious community to, in the concluding election days? Our philanthropic and visionary forefathers must be turning in their graves at the thought of voting for BPP custodians for their enormous charities, being conducted under police vigilance in future.
     
    The idea of changing the original BPP electoral scheme to a Universal Adult Franchise was planted with ulterior motives by the late politician trustee and jointly championed by Dinshaw Mehta. After initial euphoria and an unexpected victory haul in the first elections under its aegis, with the mastermind’s unforeseen demise, three years down the line post a bitter break-up with WAPIZ, Chairman Dinshaw Mehta is now left bearing the brunt of this chaotic legacy that has backfired and the disgraceful fallout of an electoral scheme gone awry. He is learning at great expense what goes around, comes around_ his folly of joining hands with co-Trustees owing allegiance to a group like WAPIZ, instead of putting aside personal grievances to align with an informed professional like Noshir Dadrawalla whose principled resignation has precipitated this election crisis in the community.
     
    At that time of spadework for UAF, WAPIZ was also set up to counter their bête-noir WZO and garner support by emotive mass frenzy. In their flight of fancy of becoming uncrowned bosses they took recourse to skillful myth- making on the race and religion front that has evolved as their staple diet in the FPJ advertisement WAPIZ page which misleads its followers week after week by distorting truth and publishing make-believe accounts. Whereas reality is that Parsee race and Zoroastrian religion is in no imminent danger from a handful of rational community brethren. If anything, the august BPP has been defiled by power hungry charlatans using religiosity as a stepping stone and befooling the gullible brethren.
    If the outfit claims to be a socio-religious group, why does WAPIZ need BPP stage when it has its own orthodox platform to propound its propaganda. Today why it is a do-or-die bid for the WAPIZ trio and their ally to get their candidate elected in this fray, is not difficult to guess.  Heavens forbid that should come to pass. It will spell doom not only for our premier charity trust but put the entire community into disarray.
    To counter this there is only one option left. As the famous Edmund Burke quote goes: “For evil to triumph, it is only necessary for good men to do nothing”.  So voters either shrug shoulders in apathy and do nothing, or boldly step out in droves on the closing two election days to pour cold water on WAPIZ’s naked ambition to get a stranglehold on the cash rich BPP through mindless votes from their unthinking fanatic supporters.
    Let history not repeat itself and the thoughtlessness of a foolhardy few put the entire community into jeopardy. Let the meritorious candidate be voted to office by responsible members of electorate.

  27. Barak Aga

    AREEZ, AREEZ,
    YES PAPA?

    BRIBING VOTERS, GHELSAPPAA.

    TELLING LIES?

    NO PAPA

    BUT RASNA IS BANKRUPT, HA HA HA.

  28. Barak Aga

    IT WAS THE ‘COALITION OF THE WILLING’
    NOW THE BLOOD IS SPILLING
    SENSING A ROUT
    THE DAGGERS CAME OUT
    DADRAWALLA IS SURELY GRINNING.

  29. Barak Aga

    IT WAS THE ‘COALITION OF THE WILLING’
    NOW THE BLOOD IS SPILLING
    SENSING A ROUT
    THE DAGGERS CAME OUT
    DADRAWALLA IS SURELY GRINNING.

  30. Contradhongi

    Appletart. Which persons in his right senses would like to render service to the Community. The moment his or her name appears FPJ  page will carry some hypothetical story that such a candidate’s ,maternal grandmothers father in law was declared insolvent or he or she has a daughter or sister in law married to a person from another denomination. With such journalistic ethics is it any wonder that a Senior Solicitor when contacted with request to stand for Trusteeship replied that “Do I look insane”‘

  31. Mickie Sorabjee

    June 28, 2011.
    WAPIZ is facing a crisis of credibility in the background of acrimonious elections for the vacant seat of BPP Trusteeship. It will be interesting to read in their next ad page how they portray the shameful fracas at Rustom Baug and absolve themselves as silent spectators alongside their failure to control/denounce the deplorable street fight hooliganism of their allied partner and sitting BPP Trustee. What next will this brazen troika introduce our peace loving, once dignifiedly harmonious community to, in the concluding election days? Our philanthropic and visionary forefathers must be turning in their graves at the thought of voting for BPP custodians for their enormous charities, being conducted under police vigilance in future.
     
    The idea of changing the original BPP electoral scheme to a Universal Adult Franchise was planted with ulterior motives by the late politician trustee and jointly championed by Dinshaw Mehta. After initial euphoria and an unexpected victory haul in the first elections under its aegis, with the mastermind’s unforeseen demise, three years down the line post a bitter break-up with WAPIZ, Chairman Dinshaw Mehta is now left bearing the brunt of this chaotic legacy that has backfired and the disgraceful fallout of an electoral scheme gone awry. He is learning at great expense what goes around, comes around_ his folly of joining hands with co-Trustees owing allegiance to a group like WAPIZ, instead of putting aside personal grievances to align with an informed professional like Noshir Dadrawalla whose principled resignation has precipitated this election crisis in the community.
     
    At that time of spadework for UAF, WAPIZ was also set up to counter their bête-noir WZO and garner support by emotive mass frenzy. In their flight of fancy of becoming uncrowned bosses they took recourse to skillful myth- making on the race and religion front that has evolved as their staple diet in the FPJ advertisement WAPIZ page which misleads its followers week after week by distorting truth and publishing make-believe accounts. Whereas reality is that Parsee race and Zoroastrian religion is in no imminent danger from a handful of rational community brethren. If anything, the august BPP has been defiled by power hungry charlatans using religiosity as a stepping stone and befooling the gullible brethren.
    If the outfit claims to be a socio-religious group, why does WAPIZ need BPP stage when it has its own orthodox platform to propound its propaganda. Today why it is a do-or-die bid for the WAPIZ trio and their ally to get their candidate elected in this fray, is not difficult to guess.  Heavens forbid that should come to pass. It will spell doom not only for our premier charity trust but put the entire community into disarray.
    To counter this there is only one option left. As the famous Edmund Burke quote goes: “For evil to triumph, it is only necessary for good men to do nothing“.  So voters either shrug shoulders in apathy and do nothing, or boldly step out in droves on the closing two election days to pour cold water on WAPIZ’s naked ambition to get a stranglehold on the cash rich BPP through mindless votes from their unthinking fanatic supporters.
    Let history not repeat itself and the thoughtlessness of a foolhardy few put the entire community into jeopardy. Let the meritorious candidate be voted to office by responsible members of electorate.

  32. Mickie Sorabjee

    June 28, 2011.
    WAPIZ is facing a crisis of credibility in the background of acrimonious elections for the vacant seat of BPP Trusteeship. It will be interesting to read in their next ad page how they portray the shameful fracas at Rustom Baug and absolve themselves as silent spectators alongside their failure to control/denounce the deplorable street fight hooliganism of their allied partner and sitting BPP Trustee. What next will this brazen troika introduce our peace loving, once dignifiedly harmonious community to, in the concluding election days? Our philanthropic and visionary forefathers must be turning in their graves at the thought of voting for BPP custodians for their enormous charities, being conducted under police vigilance in future.
     
    The idea of changing the original BPP electoral scheme to a Universal Adult Franchise was planted with ulterior motives by the late politician trustee and jointly championed by Dinshaw Mehta. After initial euphoria and an unexpected victory haul in the first elections under its aegis, with the mastermind’s unforeseen demise, three years down the line post a bitter break-up with WAPIZ, Chairman Dinshaw Mehta is now left bearing the brunt of this chaotic legacy that has backfired and the disgraceful fallout of an electoral scheme gone awry. He is learning at great expense what goes around, comes around_ his folly of joining hands with co-Trustees owing allegiance to a group like WAPIZ, instead of putting aside personal grievances to align with an informed professional like Noshir Dadrawalla whose principled resignation has precipitated this election crisis in the community.
     
    At that time of spadework for UAF, WAPIZ was also set up to counter their bête-noir WZO and garner support by emotive mass frenzy. In their flight of fancy of becoming uncrowned bosses they took recourse to skillful myth- making on the race and religion front that has evolved as their staple diet in the FPJ advertisement WAPIZ page which misleads its followers week after week by distorting truth and publishing make-believe accounts. Whereas reality is that Parsee race and Zoroastrian religion is in no imminent danger from a handful of rational community brethren. If anything, the august BPP has been defiled by power hungry charlatans using religiosity as a stepping stone and befooling the gullible brethren.
    If the outfit claims to be a socio-religious group, why does WAPIZ need BPP stage when it has its own orthodox platform to propound its propaganda. Today why it is a do-or-die bid for the WAPIZ trio and their ally to get their candidate elected in this fray, is not difficult to guess.  Heavens forbid that should come to pass. It will spell doom not only for our premier charity trust but put the entire community into disarray.
    To counter this there is only one option left. As the famous Edmund Burke quote goes: “For evil to triumph, it is only necessary for good men to do nothing“.  So voters either shrug shoulders in apathy and do nothing, or boldly step out in droves on the closing two election days to pour cold water on WAPIZ’s naked ambition to get a stranglehold on the cash rich BPP through mindless votes from their unthinking fanatic supporters.
    Let history not repeat itself and the thoughtlessness of a foolhardy few put the entire community into jeopardy. Let the meritorious candidate be voted to office by responsible members of electorate.

  33. Barak Aga

    AREEZ, AREEZ,
    YES PAPA?

    BRIBING VOTERS, GHELSAPPAA.

    TELLING LIES?

    NO PAPA

    BUT RASNA IS BANKRUPT, HA HA HA.

  34. Barak Aga

    AREEZ, AREEZ,
    YES PAPA?

    BRIBING VOTERS, GHELSAPPAA.

    TELLING LIES?

    NO PAPA

    BUT RASNA IS BANKRUPT, HA HA HA.

  35. Feroze

    Voters from Gujarat had come to vote. After the voting Anahita invited them to have lunch before departing (a free canteen was functioning in the premises). Someone was taking a video of this happening and was requested to stop filming. He continued and so the body guards of Jimmy Mistry tried to take away the camera. This was resisted and both Dinshaw Mehta and Jimmy Mistry intervened and took control of the situation. Media as we all know would like to sensationalize it and blow it out of proportion. Mrs. Mehta, I am told, did get uncomfortable as her blood pressure shot up, and I understand that she had to be treated at Masina Hospital next door.  

  36. Feroze

    Absolutely. A code of conduct is essential if there is so much sentiment attached to the post. I never go to these dinner election meets. The one I go to, of the candidate I support, I do not participate in the entertainment. I have also told so, to the candidate. 
    In this election, a candidate invited the youth and threw a party with drinks, dinner and dance at a party hall in Churchgate. This is a negative for the community and its future.

  37. Feroze

    WAPIZ came into existence as a lot of liberal Zoroastrian organisations (mostly abroad) were advocating conversion. The orthodox groups did not have a common forum and WAPIZ was formed. Fearing the huge funds in the various trusts controlled by BPP would fall into the hands of non-Zoroastrians, they took the first opportunity to get elected on the BPP board. And they were elected with a decisive majority. The orthodox had far outweighed the liberals. They are now seen as the protectors of our religion and I hope they succeed. If we loose our identity we will be wiped off faster than the mathematical prediction.

  38. Arzan

    I AM DISGUSTED AND ASHAMED AT THE JOINT STATEMENT LETTER FROM JIMMY AND DINSHAW ( ASSOCIATES ). WHY FIGHT IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT IT PUBLICLY. THIS LETTER IS A FARCE AND AN EYEWASH AND I HAVE STRONG WITNESSES WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE SITE AND EACH AND EVERY WORD MENTIONED IN MY WRITE UP IS FACTUAL AND I DARE ANY ONE OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES TO FILE A DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST ME FOR THE ARTICLE MENTIONED ABOVE .
    FIRST OF ALL JIMMY MISTRY HAD NO BUSINESS TO INTERFERE UNLESS HE WAS SPONSORING THE FOOD PACKETS OR HE WAS THE OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON OF WAPIZ. YEZDI DESAI INFACT ASKED HIM NOT TO MAKE AN ISSUE BUT HE WANTED TO SHOWOFF HIS HIRED MUSCLE POWER AND GOT THEM ROUGHED UP. IF NO SUCH FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND THE HIRED GOONS DID NOT ATTACK DM’s CHILDREN I DONT SEE ANY REASON FOR MRS DINSHAW MEHTA TO FAINT AND TAKEN TO MASINA.
    BOTH PARTIES SHOULD REALIZE THAT THEIR RESP SUPPORTERS FOUGHT FOR THEIR MASTER AND THE MASTERS MEEKLY COMES OUT WITH A DECLARATION THAT ALL IS WELL AND NO FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND FALSE EMAILS AND SMS ARE BEING CIRCULATED.  
    I WROTE OUT OF CONCERN AND NOT BECAUSE OF MY AFFILIATION TO ANY CANDIDATE AS I AM NOT IN FAVOR FO BOTH THE HEAVY WEIGHTS.
    THINK WISELY AND VOTE FOR A FRESH FACE IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF THE 2.
    MY QUESTION TO BOTH OF THEM IS WHAT MADE THEM WITHDRAW THE ACCUSATIONS AFTER MAKING THEM ?????? BEFORE STARTING THE FIGHT DID THEY NOT HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY HAVE NOW

  39. Feroze

    Voters from Gujarat had come to vote. After the voting Anahita invited them to have lunch before departing (a free canteen was functioning in the premises). Someone was taking a video of this happening and was requested to stop filming. He continued and so the body guards of Jimmy Mistry tried to take away the camera. This was resisted and both Dinshaw Mehta and Jimmy Mistry intervened and took control of the situation. Media as we all know would like to sensationalize it and blow it out of proportion. Mrs. Mehta, I am told, did get uncomfortable as her blood pressure shot up, and I understand that she had to be treated at Masina Hospital next door.  

  40. Feroze

    Voters from Gujarat had come to vote. After the voting Anahita invited them to have lunch before departing (a free canteen was functioning in the premises). Someone was taking a video of this happening and was requested to stop filming. He continued and so the body guards of Jimmy Mistry tried to take away the camera. This was resisted and both Dinshaw Mehta and Jimmy Mistry intervened and took control of the situation. Media as we all know would like to sensationalize it and blow it out of proportion. Mrs. Mehta, I am told, did get uncomfortable as her blood pressure shot up, and I understand that she had to be treated at Masina Hospital next door.  

  41. Feroze

    Absolutely. A code of conduct is essential if there is so much sentiment attached to the post. I never go to these dinner election meets. The one I go to, of the candidate I support, I do not participate in the entertainment. I have also told so, to the candidate. 
    In this election, a candidate invited the youth and threw a party with drinks, dinner and dance at a party hall in Churchgate. This is a negative for the community and its future.

  42. Feroze

    Absolutely. A code of conduct is essential if there is so much sentiment attached to the post. I never go to these dinner election meets. The one I go to, of the candidate I support, I do not participate in the entertainment. I have also told so, to the candidate. 
    In this election, a candidate invited the youth and threw a party with drinks, dinner and dance at a party hall in Churchgate. This is a negative for the community and its future.

  43. Feroze

    WAPIZ came into existence as a lot of liberal Zoroastrian organisations (mostly abroad) were advocating conversion. The orthodox groups did not have a common forum and WAPIZ was formed. Fearing the huge funds in the various trusts controlled by BPP would fall into the hands of non-Zoroastrians, they took the first opportunity to get elected on the BPP board. And they were elected with a decisive majority. The orthodox had far outweighed the liberals. They are now seen as the protectors of our religion and I hope they succeed. If we loose our identity we will be wiped off faster than the mathematical prediction.

  44. Feroze

    WAPIZ came into existence as a lot of liberal Zoroastrian organisations (mostly abroad) were advocating conversion. The orthodox groups did not have a common forum and WAPIZ was formed. Fearing the huge funds in the various trusts controlled by BPP would fall into the hands of non-Zoroastrians, they took the first opportunity to get elected on the BPP board. And they were elected with a decisive majority. The orthodox had far outweighed the liberals. They are now seen as the protectors of our religion and I hope they succeed. If we loose our identity we will be wiped off faster than the mathematical prediction.

  45. Arzan

    I AM DISGUSTED AND ASHAMED AT THE JOINT STATEMENT LETTER FROM JIMMY AND DINSHAW ( ASSOCIATES ). WHY FIGHT IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT IT PUBLICLY. THIS LETTER IS A FARCE AND AN EYEWASH AND I HAVE STRONG WITNESSES WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE SITE AND EACH AND EVERY WORD MENTIONED IN MY WRITE UP IS FACTUAL AND I DARE ANY ONE OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES TO FILE A DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST ME FOR THE ARTICLE MENTIONED ABOVE .
    FIRST OF ALL JIMMY MISTRY HAD NO BUSINESS TO INTERFERE UNLESS HE WAS SPONSORING THE FOOD PACKETS OR HE WAS THE OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON OF WAPIZ. YEZDI DESAI INFACT ASKED HIM NOT TO MAKE AN ISSUE BUT HE WANTED TO SHOWOFF HIS HIRED MUSCLE POWER AND GOT THEM ROUGHED UP. IF NO SUCH FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND THE HIRED GOONS DID NOT ATTACK DM’s CHILDREN I DONT SEE ANY REASON FOR MRS DINSHAW MEHTA TO FAINT AND TAKEN TO MASINA.
    BOTH PARTIES SHOULD REALIZE THAT THEIR RESP SUPPORTERS FOUGHT FOR THEIR MASTER AND THE MASTERS MEEKLY COMES OUT WITH A DECLARATION THAT ALL IS WELL AND NO FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND FALSE EMAILS AND SMS ARE BEING CIRCULATED.  
    I WROTE OUT OF CONCERN AND NOT BECAUSE OF MY AFFILIATION TO ANY CANDIDATE AS I AM NOT IN FAVOR FO BOTH THE HEAVY WEIGHTS.
    THINK WISELY AND VOTE FOR A FRESH FACE IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF THE 2.
    MY QUESTION TO BOTH OF THEM IS WHAT MADE THEM WITHDRAW THE ACCUSATIONS AFTER MAKING THEM ?????? BEFORE STARTING THE FIGHT DID THEY NOT HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY HAVE NOW

  46. Arzan

    I AM DISGUSTED AND ASHAMED AT THE JOINT STATEMENT LETTER FROM JIMMY AND DINSHAW ( ASSOCIATES ). WHY FIGHT IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT IT PUBLICLY. THIS LETTER IS A FARCE AND AN EYEWASH AND I HAVE STRONG WITNESSES WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE SITE AND EACH AND EVERY WORD MENTIONED IN MY WRITE UP IS FACTUAL AND I DARE ANY ONE OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES TO FILE A DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST ME FOR THE ARTICLE MENTIONED ABOVE .
    FIRST OF ALL JIMMY MISTRY HAD NO BUSINESS TO INTERFERE UNLESS HE WAS SPONSORING THE FOOD PACKETS OR HE WAS THE OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON OF WAPIZ. YEZDI DESAI INFACT ASKED HIM NOT TO MAKE AN ISSUE BUT HE WANTED TO SHOWOFF HIS HIRED MUSCLE POWER AND GOT THEM ROUGHED UP. IF NO SUCH FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND THE HIRED GOONS DID NOT ATTACK DM’s CHILDREN I DONT SEE ANY REASON FOR MRS DINSHAW MEHTA TO FAINT AND TAKEN TO MASINA.
    BOTH PARTIES SHOULD REALIZE THAT THEIR RESP SUPPORTERS FOUGHT FOR THEIR MASTER AND THE MASTERS MEEKLY COMES OUT WITH A DECLARATION THAT ALL IS WELL AND NO FIGHTS TOOK PLACE AND FALSE EMAILS AND SMS ARE BEING CIRCULATED.  
    I WROTE OUT OF CONCERN AND NOT BECAUSE OF MY AFFILIATION TO ANY CANDIDATE AS I AM NOT IN FAVOR FO BOTH THE HEAVY WEIGHTS.
    THINK WISELY AND VOTE FOR A FRESH FACE IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF THE 2.
    MY QUESTION TO BOTH OF THEM IS WHAT MADE THEM WITHDRAW THE ACCUSATIONS AFTER MAKING THEM ?????? BEFORE STARTING THE FIGHT DID THEY NOT HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY HAVE NOW

  47. Arzan

    This time i am on your side Barak. Arzan 

  48. Barak Aga

    ANAHITA DESAI FED BAWAS IN THE RUSTOM BAUG HALL
    KNOWING THAT HER ELECTORAL FORTUNE COULD FALL
    ALL OF AREEZ’S DONKEYS
    AND ALL OF AREEZ’S MEN
    COULD NOT PUT HER CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD AGAIN

  49. Zubeen

    It is shameful that our illustrious community has a BPP Chairman and a trustee who are not worthy of TRUST and lack integrity and in their own personal interest are trying to salvage their political ground by denying the violent event and circumstantial  facts witnessed by hundreds of fellow Zarthushtis.

    The joint statement of denial amply indicates what these persons  consider fellow Zarthustis to be.

  50. Arzan

    This time i am on your side Barak. Arzan 

  51. Arzan

    This time i am on your side Barak. Arzan 

  52. Barak Aga

    ANAHITA DESAI FED BAWAS IN THE RUSTOM BAUG HALL
    KNOWING THAT HER ELECTORAL FORTUNE COULD FALL
    ALL OF AREEZ’S DONKEYS
    AND ALL OF AREEZ’S MEN
    COULD NOT PUT HER CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD AGAIN

  53. Barak Aga

    ANAHITA DESAI FED BAWAS IN THE RUSTOM BAUG HALL
    KNOWING THAT HER ELECTORAL FORTUNE COULD FALL
    ALL OF AREEZ’S DONKEYS
    AND ALL OF AREEZ’S MEN
    COULD NOT PUT HER CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD AGAIN

  54. Zubeen

    It is shameful that our illustrious community has a BPP Chairman and a trustee who are not worthy of TRUST and lack integrity and in their own personal interest are trying to salvage their political ground by denying the violent event and circumstantial  facts witnessed by hundreds of fellow Zarthushtis.

    The joint statement of denial amply indicates what these persons  consider fellow Zarthustis to be.

  55. Zubeen

    It is shameful that our illustrious community has a BPP Chairman and a trustee who are not worthy of TRUST and lack integrity and in their own personal interest are trying to salvage their political ground by denying the violent event and circumstantial  facts witnessed by hundreds of fellow Zarthushtis.

    The joint statement of denial amply indicates what these persons  consider fellow Zarthustis to be.

  56. Contradhongi

    Feroze,
    WAPIZ Is free to protect the Religion”  and in fact would be justified in doing so but what has B.P.P. got to do with Religion. Even the High Court has ruled that as per the Trust Deed of B.P.P. it is only supposed to manage Funds & Properties. So can you explain interest of a man in Ahmedabad in administration of Funds & Properties. 
    As for your claim of protecting Religion, can you answer the allegation avout alienation of Batliwalla Agiary land by a Trustee of the Agiary who incidentally is  founding member of WAPIZ?

  57. Contradhongi

    Feroze,
    WAPIZ Is free to protect the Religion”  and in fact would be justified in doing so but what has B.P.P. got to do with Religion. Even the High Court has ruled that as per the Trust Deed of B.P.P. it is only supposed to manage Funds & Properties. So can you explain interest of a man in Ahmedabad in administration of Funds & Properties. 
    As for your claim of protecting Religion, can you answer the allegation avout alienation of Batliwalla Agiary land by a Trustee of the Agiary who incidentally is  founding member of WAPIZ?

  58. Cyrus

    We all know who is doing the feeding at various baugs and trying to garner votes, assuming that the way to  Parsi Zoroastrian voter’s vote is through his stomach. And using the word ‘Bawas’ in your as-inine poem shows no regard for the community or the religion.

  59. Cyrus

    We all know who is doing the feeding at various baugs and trying to garner votes, assuming that the way to  Parsi Zoroastrian voter’s vote is through his stomach. And using the word ‘Bawas’ in your as-inine poem shows no regard for the community or the religion.

  60. Cyrus

    We all know who is doing the feeding at various baugs and trying to garner votes, assuming that the way to  Parsi Zoroastrian voter’s vote is through his stomach. And using the word ‘Bawas’ in your as-inine poem shows no regard for the community or the religion.

  61. Byram. Sidhwa.

    Dear Cyrus,
    It is true that all those who were brought down from moffusil areas in Gujarat were not Parsees as we know them to be. The point here is that why were those who are not concerned with affairs of Mumbai brought here. Who paid for their journey? What was the motive for bringing them to Mumbai and making them vote as per dictates? Do you or any Parsee have right to Vote in Pune or Ahmedabad or Surat Panchayat Elections? There are flaws in the Election Scheme. Before someone says that the financier who brought  some “voter”from Gujarat ( I am not calling them Parsees or Bawas) were brought to PROTECT the Religion, I may point out that as per BPP’s Trust Deed, it is meant to manage Properties and Funds and nothing more. The organisation which boasts of PROTECTING & PRESERVING is in fact PERVERTING THE RELIGION AND POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

  62. Arzan Ghadially

    After the documentation i would like Mr Karl Sahukar – whose wife is affiliated to WAPIZ and comperes their meetings – have to say.
    He has been sending emails to all an sundry declaring he was a witness and nothing happened.
    JIMMY MISTRY IF HE EVER ENTERS ANY COLONY PL ASK THE SECURITY AT GATE TO ALLOW HIM ENTRY IF HE LEAVES HIS BODYGUARDS BEHIND. DOES HE TAKE THEM TO BED TOO?

  63. Byram. Sidhwa.

    Dear Cyrus,
    It is true that all those who were brought down from moffusil areas in Gujarat were not Parsees as we know them to be. The point here is that why were those who are not concerned with affairs of Mumbai brought here. Who paid for their journey? What was the motive for bringing them to Mumbai and making them vote as per dictates? Do you or any Parsee have right to Vote in Pune or Ahmedabad or Surat Panchayat Elections? There are flaws in the Election Scheme. Before someone says that the financier who brought  some “voter”from Gujarat ( I am not calling them Parsees or Bawas) were brought to PROTECT the Religion, I may point out that as per BPP’s Trust Deed, it is meant to manage Properties and Funds and nothing more. The organisation which boasts of PROTECTING & PRESERVING is in fact PERVERTING THE RELIGION AND POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

  64. Byram. Sidhwa.

    Dear Cyrus,
    It is true that all those who were brought down from moffusil areas in Gujarat were not Parsees as we know them to be. The point here is that why were those who are not concerned with affairs of Mumbai brought here. Who paid for their journey? What was the motive for bringing them to Mumbai and making them vote as per dictates? Do you or any Parsee have right to Vote in Pune or Ahmedabad or Surat Panchayat Elections? There are flaws in the Election Scheme. Before someone says that the financier who brought  some “voter”from Gujarat ( I am not calling them Parsees or Bawas) were brought to PROTECT the Religion, I may point out that as per BPP’s Trust Deed, it is meant to manage Properties and Funds and nothing more. The organisation which boasts of PROTECTING & PRESERVING is in fact PERVERTING THE RELIGION AND POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

  65. Byram. Sidhwa.

    Dear Cyrus,
    It is true that all those who were brought down from moffusil areas in Gujarat were not Parsees as we know them to be. The point here is that why were those who are not concerned with affairs of Mumbai brought here. Who paid for their journey? What was the motive for bringing them to Mumbai and making them vote as per dictates? Do you or any Parsee have right to Vote in Pune or Ahmedabad or Surat Panchayat Elections? There are flaws in the Election Scheme. Before someone says that the financier who brought  some “voter”from Gujarat ( I am not calling them Parsees or Bawas) were brought to PROTECT the Religion, I may point out that as per BPP’s Trust Deed, it is meant to manage Properties and Funds and nothing more. The organisation which boasts of PROTECTING & PRESERVING is in fact PERVERTING THE RELIGION AND POLLUTING THE ENVIRONMENT.

  66. Arzan Ghadially

    After the documentation i would like Mr Karl Sahukar – whose wife is affiliated to WAPIZ and comperes their meetings – have to say.
    He has been sending emails to all an sundry declaring he was a witness and nothing happened.
    JIMMY MISTRY IF HE EVER ENTERS ANY COLONY PL ASK THE SECURITY AT GATE TO ALLOW HIM ENTRY IF HE LEAVES HIS BODYGUARDS BEHIND. DOES HE TAKE THEM TO BED TOO?

  67. Arzan Ghadially

    After the documentation i would like Mr Karl Sahukar – whose wife is affiliated to WAPIZ and comperes their meetings – have to say.
    He has been sending emails to all an sundry declaring he was a witness and nothing happened.
    JIMMY MISTRY IF HE EVER ENTERS ANY COLONY PL ASK THE SECURITY AT GATE TO ALLOW HIM ENTRY IF HE LEAVES HIS BODYGUARDS BEHIND. DOES HE TAKE THEM TO BED TOO?

  68. Barak Aga

    If Mario Puzo had been alive today, the incident at Rustom Baug could have provided the setting for “The Godfather – Part IV”.
    The ageing Don : Don Dinshaw, eliminated in a Parsi Baug, and the new Don on the block, Jimmy Don taking over his turf.
    Instead of gambling and drug peddling, the plot of the novel would revolve around billions of dollars worth of real estate, the new interest of the real estate mafia.

  69. Barak Aga

    If Mario Puzo had been alive today, the incident at Rustom Baug could have provided the setting for “The Godfather – Part IV”.
    The ageing Don : Don Dinshaw, eliminated in a Parsi Baug, and the new Don on the block, Jimmy Don taking over his turf.
    Instead of gambling and drug peddling, the plot of the novel would revolve around billions of dollars worth of real estate, the new interest of the real estate mafia.

  70. Barak Aga

    If Mario Puzo had been alive today, the incident at Rustom Baug could have provided the setting for “The Godfather – Part IV”.
    The ageing Don : Don Dinshaw, eliminated in a Parsi Baug, and the new Don on the block, Jimmy Don taking over his turf.
    Instead of gambling and drug peddling, the plot of the novel would revolve around billions of dollars worth of real estate, the new interest of the real estate mafia.

  71. Gieve Acidwalla

    Dinshaw and Jimmy – can be termed the “bin laden’s” of our community!

  72. Gieve Acidwalla

    Dinshaw and Jimmy – can be termed the “bin laden’s” of our community!

  73. Gieve Acidwalla

    Dinshaw and Jimmy – can be termed the “bin laden’s” of our community!

  74. RATHESTAR.

    According to me there was no brainwashing done in Godfather whereas with WAPIZ the induction and graduation of a member is due to brainwashing of susceptible minds 

  75. RATHESTAR.

    According to me there was no brainwashing done in Godfather whereas with WAPIZ the induction and graduation of a member is due to brainwashing of susceptible minds 

  76. RATHESTAR.

    According to me there was no brainwashing done in Godfather whereas with WAPIZ the induction and graduation of a member is due to brainwashing of susceptible minds 

  77. Barak Aga

    Hey diddle diddlewith the election scheme the Court did fiddleA former Trustee was over the moonthe Bawajis laughed to see such a sportand Munchi ran away with the spoon…..
    in spite of Jimmy the Goon.

  78. Barak Aga

    Hey diddle diddlewith the election scheme the Court did fiddleA former Trustee was over the moonthe Bawajis laughed to see such a sportand Munchi ran away with the spoon…..
    in spite of Jimmy the Goon.

  79. Barak Aga

    Hey diddle diddlewith the election scheme the Court did fiddleA former Trustee was over the moonthe Bawajis laughed to see such a sportand Munchi ran away with the spoon…..
    in spite of Jimmy the Goon.

  80. Paul1221

    With due respects to dishaw n viraf am sure Jimmy guards over reacted. If his security guards have gone to the level of bashing at minimum provocation. Bodyguards are supposed to react over simple provocation. They would know better if the touch, pat or hug is friendly? .Jimmy should apologies as mentiong its not intentional as it tarnishes his image too. With ref to Anita n WAPIZ its trash what employment opportunity learning or career opportunity would they cater to the young lot. I think we should pick n choose candidate to come forward n run the show. Rather letting crocks n cooks fighting it out.  Hats of to Sensei Vispy for thinking wisely n solving the issue. Vispy sir would be a good candied.
     
    Mr Karl do u have any clue what you have got into? If possible a sorry to Mrs Mehta for the miscommunication you did and the mockery you created. Viraf n Hormuz henceforth remember when you confront anybody especially with somebody as Jimmy caliber think twice. How to go about it… I don’t mean your wrong n listen to your dad being insulted. But remember what is said about Dishawji only during the election, he said about Jimmy round the clock with or without the elections in the propaganda.  

  81. Masco

    what happend in Rustom baug is like S#!T #@ppens ….. just like delhi belly …. lets forget it n carry on  zyng can we have a special screening for delhi belly ho can give wackyer comments besides us  

  82. Paul1221

    With due respects to dishaw n viraf am sure Jimmy guards over reacted. If his security guards have gone to the level of bashing at minimum provocation. Bodyguards are supposed to react over simple provocation. They would know better if the touch, pat or hug is friendly? .Jimmy should apologies as mentiong its not intentional as it tarnishes his image too. With ref to Anita n WAPIZ its trash what employment opportunity learning or career opportunity would they cater to the young lot. I think we should pick n choose candidate to come forward n run the show. Rather letting crocks n cooks fighting it out.  Hats of to Sensei Vispy for thinking wisely n solving the issue. Vispy sir would be a good candied.
     
    Mr Karl do u have any clue what you have got into? If possible a sorry to Mrs Mehta for the miscommunication you did and the mockery you created. Viraf n Hormuz henceforth remember when you confront anybody especially with somebody as Jimmy caliber think twice. How to go about it… I don’t mean your wrong n listen to your dad being insulted. But remember what is said about Dishawji only during the election, he said about Jimmy round the clock with or without the elections in the propaganda.  

  83. Paul1221

    With due respects to dishaw n viraf am sure Jimmy guards over reacted. If his security guards have gone to the level of bashing at minimum provocation. Bodyguards are supposed to react over simple provocation. They would know better if the touch, pat or hug is friendly? .Jimmy should apologies as mentiong its not intentional as it tarnishes his image too. With ref to Anita n WAPIZ its trash what employment opportunity learning or career opportunity would they cater to the young lot. I think we should pick n choose candidate to come forward n run the show. Rather letting crocks n cooks fighting it out.  Hats of to Sensei Vispy for thinking wisely n solving the issue. Vispy sir would be a good candied.
     
    Mr Karl do u have any clue what you have got into? If possible a sorry to Mrs Mehta for the miscommunication you did and the mockery you created. Viraf n Hormuz henceforth remember when you confront anybody especially with somebody as Jimmy caliber think twice. How to go about it… I don’t mean your wrong n listen to your dad being insulted. But remember what is said about Dishawji only during the election, he said about Jimmy round the clock with or without the elections in the propaganda.  

  84. Masco

    what happend in Rustom baug is like S#!T #@ppens ….. just like delhi belly …. lets forget it n carry on  zyng can we have a special screening for delhi belly ho can give wackyer comments besides us  

  85. Masco

    what happend in Rustom baug is like S#!T #@ppens ….. just like delhi belly …. lets forget it n carry on  zyng can we have a special screening for delhi belly ho can give wackyer comments besides us  

  86. Mickie Sorabjee

    July 12, 2011.
    Loathe as this pen is to rake this subject after an overdose of BPP Elections, this comment needs to be voiced_
    I chose to ignore reference to my name by one Karl Sahukar when I first read Mr Viraf Mehta’s letter of clarification in update 2 of this Violence at Election Time post, as Mr Viraf Mehta’s details were self explanatory. At that point of time, I had thought it prudent not to dignify an individual’s contorted outburst against my pointed writing. Now my attention has been drawn to certain developments and in the interim having also personally perused Sahukar’s widely circulated controversial communication, I think it is appropriate to perforce hold a mirror to the man who flippantly sought to diminish the integrity of principled, issue based penmanship.
    Not prone to such activity, I was oblivious of any purported e-mail hostilities on the sidelines during BPP BY-polls. If some ruffled member of the extremist fringe sought to make my circumspect posting on the Rustom Baug occurrence a part of some hyper action on the inbox network without my knowledge, it only reflects his desperation. 
     A smarting Sahukar’s base tirade as a WAPIZ ideologist tilting at windmills in their closed group discussion that was deliberately leaked, cannot legitimize his petulant finger-pointing, or wish away the sordid reality as witnessed by large number of community members. Speaking for self, untruth for Mr. Sahukar is truth for this pen.
    Karl Sahukar whoever he is has never publicly refuted or countered Viraf Mehta’s letter to community which sought to clarify and confirm the Rustom Baug fracas. Taking a leaf from his own righteous sermonizing, post the election results one may query Mr Karl whose reputation now lies in tatters and who is the loose cannon supporting untruth? Lesson here for the young man_ never to club the exaggerated with the accurate.
    Perhaps KS would be well advised to practice what he has vociferously preached in his bragging epistle and look before he blindly leaps into a bottomless pit from where he may find it impossible to wriggle out again. With a premature fluttering of the joint statement of two warring BPP Trustees as a victory flag, truncated abruptly after Viraf Mehta’s open letter to community, may be the aggressive Sahukar should consider slithering back to wherever he has emerged from.
    BTW kudos for the one honest statement in Karl’s intemperate diatribe: ” A woman is like a tea bag. You only know her strength once she gets in hot water!”  :-) . .
    .

  87. Mickie Sorabjee

    July 12, 2011.
    Loathe as this pen is to rake this subject after an overdose of BPP Elections, this comment needs to be voiced_
    I chose to ignore reference to my name by one Karl Sahukar when I first read Mr Viraf Mehta’s letter of clarification in update 2 of this Violence at Election Time post, as Mr Viraf Mehta’s details were self explanatory. At that point of time, I had thought it prudent not to dignify an individual’s contorted outburst against my pointed writing. Now my attention has been drawn to certain developments and in the interim having also personally perused Sahukar’s widely circulated controversial communication, I think it is appropriate to perforce hold a mirror to the man who flippantly sought to diminish the integrity of principled, issue based penmanship.
    Not prone to such activity, I was oblivious of any purported e-mail hostilities on the sidelines during BPP BY-polls. If some ruffled member of the extremist fringe sought to make my circumspect posting on the Rustom Baug occurrence a part of some hyper action on the inbox network without my knowledge, it only reflects his desperation. 
     A smarting Sahukar’s base tirade as a WAPIZ ideologist tilting at windmills in their closed group discussion that was deliberately leaked, cannot legitimize his petulant finger-pointing, or wish away the sordid reality as witnessed by large number of community members. Speaking for self, untruth for Mr. Sahukar is truth for this pen.
    Karl Sahukar whoever he is has never publicly refuted or countered Viraf Mehta’s letter to community which sought to clarify and confirm the Rustom Baug fracas. Taking a leaf from his own righteous sermonizing, post the election results one may query Mr Karl whose reputation now lies in tatters and who is the loose cannon supporting untruth? Lesson here for the young man_ never to club the exaggerated with the accurate.
    Perhaps KS would be well advised to practice what he has vociferously preached in his bragging epistle and look before he blindly leaps into a bottomless pit from where he may find it impossible to wriggle out again. With a premature fluttering of the joint statement of two warring BPP Trustees as a victory flag, truncated abruptly after Viraf Mehta’s open letter to community, may be the aggressive Sahukar should consider slithering back to wherever he has emerged from.
    BTW kudos for the one honest statement in Karl’s intemperate diatribe: ” A woman is like a tea bag. You only know her strength once she gets in hot water!”  :-) . .
    .

  88. Mickie Sorabjee

    July 12, 2011.
    Loathe as this pen is to rake this subject after an overdose of BPP Elections, this comment needs to be voiced_
    I chose to ignore reference to my name by one Karl Sahukar when I first read Mr Viraf Mehta’s letter of clarification in update 2 of this Violence at Election Time post, as Mr Viraf Mehta’s details were self explanatory. At that point of time, I had thought it prudent not to dignify an individual’s contorted outburst against my pointed writing. Now my attention has been drawn to certain developments and in the interim having also personally perused Sahukar’s widely circulated controversial communication, I think it is appropriate to perforce hold a mirror to the man who flippantly sought to diminish the integrity of principled, issue based penmanship.
    Not prone to such activity, I was oblivious of any purported e-mail hostilities on the sidelines during BPP BY-polls. If some ruffled member of the extremist fringe sought to make my circumspect posting on the Rustom Baug occurrence a part of some hyper action on the inbox network without my knowledge, it only reflects his desperation. 
     A smarting Sahukar’s base tirade as a WAPIZ ideologist tilting at windmills in their closed group discussion that was deliberately leaked, cannot legitimize his petulant finger-pointing, or wish away the sordid reality as witnessed by large number of community members. Speaking for self, untruth for Mr. Sahukar is truth for this pen.
    Karl Sahukar whoever he is has never publicly refuted or countered Viraf Mehta’s letter to community which sought to clarify and confirm the Rustom Baug fracas. Taking a leaf from his own righteous sermonizing, post the election results one may query Mr Karl whose reputation now lies in tatters and who is the loose cannon supporting untruth? Lesson here for the young man_ never to club the exaggerated with the accurate.
    Perhaps KS would be well advised to practice what he has vociferously preached in his bragging epistle and look before he blindly leaps into a bottomless pit from where he may find it impossible to wriggle out again. With a premature fluttering of the joint statement of two warring BPP Trustees as a victory flag, truncated abruptly after Viraf Mehta’s open letter to community, may be the aggressive Sahukar should consider slithering back to wherever he has emerged from.
    BTW kudos for the one honest statement in Karl’s intemperate diatribe: ” A woman is like a tea bag. You only know her strength once she gets in hot water!”  :-) . .
    .

  89. Contradhongi

    Feroze,
    WAPIZ Is free to protect the Religion”  and in fact would be justified in doing so but what has B.P.P. got to do with Religion. Even the High Court has ruled that as per the Trust Deed of B.P.P. it is only supposed to manage Funds & Properties. So can you explain interest of a man in Ahmedabad in administration of Funds & Properties. 
    As for your claim of protecting Religion, can you answer the allegation avout alienation of Batliwalla Agiary land by a Trustee of the Agiary who incidentally is  founding member of WAPIZ?