It
always makes me laugh when those who know so little about the religion
set out to teach others all about it, as selfishly and self-centredly as
possible of course – YET, the biggest blunder would have to be the
female stating that 30 years ago when they realised that the fire
temples would be empty that they allowed Parsi intermarried men to come
in to them and that 20 years hence they will use the same reason for
allowing intermarried Parsi women to do so too! Who do they think they
are kidding?
I
would also ask her to check out the inclinations and even intermarried
status of her supporters and their families – throwing names around of
the rich and famous doesn’t mean that those people themselves are
learned authorities of the Zoroastrian religion! We are not following a
religion to please individual tastes but one that is based on time
tested tenets and traditions!
As
to fire temples in Iran being open to all communities, please go there
and check it out for yourselves! Even the Shahbanou Empress Farah Diba
herself was not allowed to go beyond a certain point at the Yazd Atash
Behram and could only view the blazing fire via a thick glass pane (and
that too only thanks to tremendous politically correct pressures!) and
when the boi ceremony is going on, they shut the outsiders’ view of the
same, via wooden window shutters! Needless to say that the cacophony
from non-Zoroastrians shatters the peace that we know in any agiyari in
India, where communicating with Ahura Mazda is not a tourist attraction.
Is that what these smart females want for the Parsees too?
I guess we will internally bleed to death by stab wounds delivered by our own!
Rustom Adi Havewalla
on October 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC OF THE DEBATE. “JIYO PARSIS”, DEALING WITH THEIR DWINDLING NUMBERS!
Many educated Parsis have left India out of frustration. Job opportunities abroad are better and they have even realised that they are leading a better life there. So as long as they enjoy a secured life abroad, they will stay abroad.
OUR INDIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD WAKE UP FROM THE SLUMBER AND REALIZE THAT MANY SOCIALLY, INTELLECTUALLY AND FINANCIALLY ADVANCED PEOPLE (PARSIS AND NON-PARSIS) ARE LEAVING THEIR OWN COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER WANT TO STAY HERE! THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THEM IS BY IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF OUR ADMINISTRATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, HERE, IN INDIA ITSELF.
If the Indian Government is really interested in saving the Parsis, then, they should immediately consider the Parsis as a Minority Community and extend to them the benefits that they are extending to the Minorities in all walks of life.
All the discussions in the debate were of personal nature. Such things don’t help in increasing the population of any tribe or community.
TO INCREASE THE POPULATION OF A TRIBE OR COMMUNITY, MORE REPRODUCTION IS NECESSARY. GREATER REPRODUCTION WOULD INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE FAMILIES. BIGGER FAMILIES NEED BIGGER INCOMES FOR SURVIVAL AND BIGGER HOUSES TO LIVE IN. UNLESS THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, WHO WILL WANT TO EXPAND THEIR FAMILIES AND BECOME PAUPERS!
E.g. My great grandfather had more than 10 children. My Grandfather had more than 10 children. BUT THEY ALSO HAD LOTS OF LANDS, INCOME FROM TODDY AND NO INCOME-TAX OR CORRUPTION DURING THE BRITISH RAJ! ALL THIS STOPPED AFTER THE INDEPENDENCE. Naturally, my father and his brothers and sisters had to practise family planning. My Parents had three children and I have only one son out of our own choice for a better life out of our limited income. So, naturally, when everyone restricts the size of his own family, the population of his community or tribe decreases. Where is the need for a debate over here for entering or preventing others from entering the fire temple?
It
always makes me laugh when those who know so little about the religion
set out to teach others all about it, as selfishly and self-centredly as
possible of course – YET, the biggest blunder would have to be the
female stating that 30 years ago when they realised that the fire
temples would be empty that they allowed Parsi intermarried men to come
in to them and that 20 years hence they will use the same reason for
allowing intermarried Parsi women to do so too! Who do they think they
are kidding?
I
would also ask her to check out the inclinations and even intermarried
status of her supporters and their families – throwing names around of
the rich and famous doesn’t mean that those people themselves are
learned authorities of the Zoroastrian religion! We are not following a
religion to please individual tastes but one that is based on time
tested tenets and traditions!
As
to fire temples in Iran being open to all communities, please go there
and check it out for yourselves! Even the Shahbanou Empress Farah Diba
herself was not allowed to go beyond a certain point at the Yazd Atash
Behram and could only view the blazing fire via a thick glass pane (and
that too only thanks to tremendous politically correct pressures!) and
when the boi ceremony is going on, they shut the outsiders’ view of the
same, via wooden window shutters! Needless to say that the cacophony
from non-Zoroastrians shatters the peace that we know in any agiyari in
India, where communicating with Ahura Mazda is not a tourist attraction.
Is that what these smart females want for the Parsees too?
I guess we will internally bleed to death by stab wounds delivered by our own!
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC OF THE DEBATE. “JIYO PARSIS”, DEALING WITH THEIR DWINDLING NUMBERS!
Many educated Parsis have left India out of frustration. Job opportunities abroad are better and they have even realised that they are leading a better life there. So as long as they enjoy a secured life abroad, they will stay abroad.
OUR INDIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD WAKE UP FROM THE SLUMBER AND REALIZE THAT MANY SOCIALLY, INTELLECTUALLY AND FINANCIALLY ADVANCED PEOPLE (PARSIS AND NON-PARSIS) ARE LEAVING THEIR OWN COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER WANT TO STAY HERE! THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THEM IS BY IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF OUR ADMINISTRATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, HERE, IN INDIA ITSELF.
If the Indian Government is really interested in saving the Parsis, then, they should immediately consider the Parsis as a Minority Community and extend to them the benefits that they are extending to the Minorities in all walks of life.
All the discussions in the debate were of personal nature. Such things don’t help in increasing the population of any tribe or community.
TO INCREASE THE POPULATION OF A TRIBE OR COMMUNITY, MORE REPRODUCTION IS NECESSARY. GREATER REPRODUCTION WOULD INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE FAMILIES. BIGGER FAMILIES NEED BIGGER INCOMES FOR SURVIVAL AND BIGGER HOUSES TO LIVE IN. UNLESS THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, WHO WILL WANT TO EXPAND THEIR FAMILIES AND BECOME PAUPERS!
E.g. My great grandfather had more than 10 children. My Grandfather had more than 10 children. BUT THEY ALSO HAD LOTS OF LANDS, INCOME FROM TODDY AND NO INCOME-TAX OR CORRUPTION DURING THE BRITISH RAJ! ALL THIS STOPPED AFTER THE INDEPENDENCE. Naturally, my father and his brothers and sisters had to practise family planning. My Parents had three children and I have only one son out of our own choice for a better life out of our limited income. So, naturally, when everyone restricts the size of his own family, the population of his community or tribe decreases. Where is the need for a debate over here for entering or preventing others from entering the fire temple?
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