Plan to boost Parsi numbers gets nod

The Planning Commission has cleared a scheme to arrest the dwindling population of the Parsi (Zoroastrian) community, in what will be the first intervention of its kind. The Plan panel had earlier turned down the minority affairs ministry’s scheme to

tackle the falling population of religious minorities.

By Mahendra Kumar Singh | TNN

The programme – called the scheme for containing population decline of small minority community – aims to increase the diminishing numbers of the Parsi community by a scientific and structured approach.

“The Planning Commission has accorded in-principle approval to the scheme,” minister for planning Ashwani Kumar told the Parliament in a written reply. According to the 2001 Census, the number of Parsis has declined from 1,14, 000 in 1941 to 69,000.

A budgetary provision of Rs 2 crore has been made for the scheme, which aims to address the issue of population decline among the Parsis through fertility treatments and awareness campaigns, in the current fiscal. The Central Sector Scheme launched in 2010-11 had a budgetary provision of Rs 1 crore, but was turned down by the panel.

The government’s move comes on the back of the National Commission for Minorities’ demand for an elaborate survey of the community.

To convince the Plan panel, the minority affairs ministry produced Census 2011 figures, which showed the rapid decline of the community’s population. The minister said that the scheme will be implemented through organizations or societies of the Parsis.

  • Fertility treatments are not the only answer. The biggest
    obstacle is the bigoted BPP members that refuse to allow not only the non-Parsi
    spouses into the fold, but their offspring as well. I hope that the Planning Commission will also
    address the racist nature of these bigots as well as give advice on fertility
    treatments, etc.

    And what do they mean by awareness campaigns? If they mean that they are going to brainwash
    Parsi youth into thinking that they are pure-blooded Aryans and they must only
    marry other Parsis, then guess what? It
    is going to fail. The age of such racist thinking is fast coming to an end.

    But let’s face it; such plans are doomed to failure. The real problem is that the pseudo Nazis are
    still in power and as long as they are running things, nothing will change and
    the community will continue to vanish. So more money is going to go down the
    drain. Jai Hind!

  • Fertility treatments are not the only answer. The biggest
    obstacle is the bigoted BPP members that refuse to allow not only the non-Parsi
    spouses into the fold, but their offspring as well. I hope that the Planning Commission will also
    address the racist nature of these bigots as well as give advice on fertility
    treatments, etc.

    And what do they mean by awareness campaigns? If they mean that they are going to brainwash
    Parsi youth into thinking that they are pure-blooded Aryans and they must only
    marry other Parsis, then guess what? It
    is going to fail. The age of such racist thinking is fast coming to an end.

    But let’s face it; such plans are doomed to failure. The real problem is that the pseudo Nazis are
    still in power and as long as they are running things, nothing will change and
    the community will continue to vanish. So more money is going to go down the
    drain. Jai Hind!

  • gb

    Please do not give this Rs 2 crores to Bombay Parsi Panchayat, otherwise it will never reach the ultimate for whom it is meant for. It will be just used by them or distributed amongst rich and famous. Community will never increase till we have 7 existing trustees who hardly do anything good for the community. Last three and half years are just wasted.

  • gb

    Please do not give this Rs 2 crores to Bombay Parsi Panchayat, otherwise it will never reach the ultimate for whom it is meant for. It will be just used by them or distributed amongst rich and famous. Community will never increase till we have 7 existing trustees who hardly do anything good for the community. Last three and half years are just wasted.

  • Barak Aga

    Many questions go abegging. Zoroastrians in India live together in colonies. Zoroastrian boys and girls grow up together. Periodically there is interaction between Zoroastrian boys and girls of different colonies during inter-colony sports meets, etc. In spite of all this Zoroastrian boys and girls have opted to choose a non-Zoroastrian spouse. What is the reason?Many young Zoroastrians have decided early on that they will not take a Zoroastrian as their partner. Many children tell their parents, “Find any husband / wife, but not a Parsi”. Some “Irani” families expressly forbid their children from bringing home a “Parsi” spouse. “Only “Irani” boy / girl will do. If living together in colonies for decades fails to impel Parsi boys and girls to choose a spouse from among the Parsi community, will any other measure succeed. Today Parsi boys and girls are inspired by J. R. D. Tata, whose mother was a French lady. They are inspired by Cyrus Mistry, the new head of Tata Sons, whose wife is a Muslim. Zoroastrian boys and girls are inspired by the son of one of the High Priests, who took a Gujarati Hindu bride, and had his children’s navjote performed. They are no longer swayed by empty rhetoric.

  • Barak Aga

    Many questions go abegging. Zoroastrians in India live together in colonies. Zoroastrian boys and girls grow up together. Periodically there is interaction between Zoroastrian boys and girls of different colonies during inter-colony sports meets, etc. In spite of all this Zoroastrian boys and girls have opted to choose a non-Zoroastrian spouse. What is the reason?Many young Zoroastrians have decided early on that they will not take a Zoroastrian as their partner. Many children tell their parents, “Find any husband / wife, but not a Parsi”. Some “Irani” families expressly forbid their children from bringing home a “Parsi” spouse. “Only “Irani” boy / girl will do. If living together in colonies for decades fails to impel Parsi boys and girls to choose a spouse from among the Parsi community, will any other measure succeed. Today Parsi boys and girls are inspired by J. R. D. Tata, whose mother was a French lady. They are inspired by Cyrus Mistry, the new head of Tata Sons, whose wife is a Muslim. Zoroastrian boys and girls are inspired by the son of one of the High Priests, who took a Gujarati Hindu bride, and had his children’s navjote performed. They are no longer swayed by empty rhetoric.

  • Runal

    Parsi thinks they are very classy and educated people when comes to spirituality…They think God Ahura Mazda is only for Parsi. All Parsi must adopt Sufism or Sikhism to learn One God creator of all rather then being Bigot or racist. this community is already 50% diminished in last four decades and at the end of this century it will be just ruins left and will part of theosophical history. Parsi have locked that God who created human and Parsis have showed more fanaticism then Muslims and became homeless and destroyed their own identity.

  • Runal

    Parsi thinks they are very classy and educated people when comes to spirituality…They think God Ahura Mazda is only for Parsi. All Parsi must adopt Sufism or Sikhism to learn One God creator of all rather then being Bigot or racist. this community is already 50% diminished in last four decades and at the end of this century it will be just ruins left and will part of theosophical history. Parsi have locked that God who created human and Parsis have showed more fanaticism then Muslims and became homeless and destroyed their own identity.

  • Burzin

    Dear Sillo,
    Please read the white paper published by Dinyar Patel (PHD from Harvard) who has mentioned in his study that acceptance of kids from intermarriages will not significantly impact the numbers / forecasts. The prime issue is non-marriages and late marriages which results in a significantly low fertility ratio for women in their chilkd bearing age.
    I will re-produce a quote from the study:
    “But experts like Axelrod are confident that, while figures for intermarriage along with out-migration can by themselves be “substantial,” they are “not sufficient to account entirely for the population decline.”
    Also another one:
    “He discovered that, irrespective of the acceptance of children of any intermarriage, “the Parsi population will decline sharply over the next few decades, given current fertility trends.” So few babies are being born into the community that the acceptance of children of intermarried couples makes hardly any difference. With current rates of fertility and intermarriage, the 2051 population in Bombay will be 19,136 if no children of any intermarried couple are accepted; 20,122 if only children of intermarried women are excluded; and 20,535 if all children of intermarriages are accepted.”

  • Burzin

    Dear Sillo,
    Please read the white paper published by Dinyar Patel (PHD from Harvard) who has mentioned in his study that acceptance of kids from intermarriages will not significantly impact the numbers / forecasts. The prime issue is non-marriages and late marriages which results in a significantly low fertility ratio for women in their chilkd bearing age.
    I will re-produce a quote from the study:
    “But experts like Axelrod are confident that, while figures for intermarriage along with out-migration can by themselves be “substantial,” they are “not sufficient to account entirely for the population decline.”
    Also another one:
    “He discovered that, irrespective of the acceptance of children of any intermarriage, “the Parsi population will decline sharply over the next few decades, given current fertility trends.” So few babies are being born into the community that the acceptance of children of intermarried couples makes hardly any difference. With current rates of fertility and intermarriage, the 2051 population in Bombay will be 19,136 if no children of any intermarried couple are accepted; 20,122 if only children of intermarried women are excluded; and 20,535 if all children of intermarriages are accepted.”

  • gb

    You forgot chairman of bpp whose son recently married a sindhi. We are diminishing in numbers because nobody wants to marry a parsi. To-day a parsi girl wants a husband who is earning a lac per month, who has an independent house where his parents and other siblings should not stay with him. He also must have a car and also good bank balance and savings. According to Bpp merit rating schemes for housing, till a parsi earns Rs 90,000/- per month, he will not get a house in bpp managed colonies. Judge of a Honourable High Court earns Rs 90,000/- per month. In last two years, five judges resigned from their post in the Honourable High Court in Mumbai and became again an advocate, so that they can earn six to ten times more than the salary of a judge. We do have parsi judges also in the high court. Luckily they are all married.Bpp must seriously think of a practical solution to increase parsi community. God Bless the community.

  • gb

    You forgot chairman of bpp whose son recently married a sindhi. We are diminishing in numbers because nobody wants to marry a parsi. To-day a parsi girl wants a husband who is earning a lac per month, who has an independent house where his parents and other siblings should not stay with him. He also must have a car and also good bank balance and savings. According to Bpp merit rating schemes for housing, till a parsi earns Rs 90,000/- per month, he will not get a house in bpp managed colonies. Judge of a Honourable High Court earns Rs 90,000/- per month. In last two years, five judges resigned from their post in the Honourable High Court in Mumbai and became again an advocate, so that they can earn six to ten times more than the salary of a judge. We do have parsi judges also in the high court. Luckily they are all married.Bpp must seriously think of a practical solution to increase parsi community. God Bless the community.

  • gb

    We Parsis could be numbering around only 40,000 in mumbai according to the latest census figures which will be published in march 2013. But we are definetely not homeless and destroyed in our own identity. We are waiting for a saviour called shah behram varzavand.Once he comes out in the open world, then I personally feel, our community numbers will definetely increase and our religion also will flourish and prosper. By that time, we will surely have a new round of Bpp elections for electing new set of 7 trustees.

  • gb

    We Parsis could be numbering around only 40,000 in mumbai according to the latest census figures which will be published in march 2013. But we are definetely not homeless and destroyed in our own identity. We are waiting for a saviour called shah behram varzavand.Once he comes out in the open world, then I personally feel, our community numbers will definetely increase and our religion also will flourish and prosper. By that time, we will surely have a new round of Bpp elections for electing new set of 7 trustees.

  • gb

    An Ngo called Forum for Fast justice based at Vileparle Mumbai has published statistics of pending court cases in India. They are more than 3 crores. Vacancies for Judges are more than 300 in India. They have given an ultimatum to Government of India to find practical solutions with negative results. They are going to arrange a Dharna at Delhi- Rajghat on 30th January, 2015. I do not know why they want to wait for another 28 months. By that time, the no. of court cases will increase by another one crore on an all india basis. You can google and join tehm and help them if you have any practical solutions.

  • gb

    An Ngo called Forum for Fast justice based at Vileparle Mumbai has published statistics of pending court cases in India. They are more than 3 crores. Vacancies for Judges are more than 300 in India. They have given an ultimatum to Government of India to find practical solutions with negative results. They are going to arrange a Dharna at Delhi- Rajghat on 30th January, 2015. I do not know why they want to wait for another 28 months. By that time, the no. of court cases will increase by another one crore on an all india basis. You can google and join tehm and help them if you have any practical solutions.

  • Burzin

    Ok, I am not sure how many Parsis observed this but during the Census survey last year – I was not asked any question about my religion. When I asked them if they recorded my religion they mentioned that it was not required during this census. I was naturally surprised at this.
    I am not sure if others have faced this, Maybe others can share their experience. But if this data was not consistently collected then how can we rely on the numbers?

  • Burzin

    Ok, I am not sure how many Parsis observed this but during the Census survey last year – I was not asked any question about my religion. When I asked them if they recorded my religion they mentioned that it was not required during this census. I was naturally surprised at this.
    I am not sure if others have faced this, Maybe others can share their experience. But if this data was not consistently collected then how can we rely on the numbers?

  • gb

    you please check government of india website on census. wait till 31st march 2013 for final updates.

  • gb

    you please check government of india website on census. wait till 31st march 2013 for final updates.