The hearing of the case seeking confirmation of rights to the Parsi woman, who was prevented from worshipping at the Agiyari after she married a non-Parsi, came up before a larger bench of High Court on Thursday.
While hearing the case the three judge bench asked the counsels in the case to apprise about the jurisdiction and functioning of various bodies involved in the decisions pertaining to such rights.
A bench comprising Justice Jayant Patel, Justice Akil Kureshi and Justice R M Chhaya also sought the details also asked the counsels to give details and references from the literature and the mythology of Zoroastrian religion on the issue.
The petitioner, Goolrokh Gupta had approached the high court seeking confirmation of rights to visit, pray and perform rituals at Zoroastrian shrines. The petition mentioned that a trust administering an Agiyari and a ‘Tower of Silence’ in Valsad allegedly prevented a Parsi women, married to a non-Parsi, from praying and attending a funeral at these places in 2008.
Gupta, whose parents reside in Valsad, feared that in the event of their demise, she may not be allowed by the trust to pray or perform final rites at the aforesaid places. The petition also argued that that every Zoroastrian has the right to visit and take part in rituals at the fire temple and Tower of Silence.
“Zoroastrian law does not restrict a Parsi from marrying a person from a different religion. While Parsi men married to non-Parsis are allowed to enjoy all religious rights, the women are discriminated against,’’ the petitioner argued.
The petition further pointed out that the Zoroastrian men, who are married to non-Parsi women were allowed to visit Agiari and attend funerals at the places of rituals. However, Parsi woman who got married to a non-Parsi man, were restricted from attending or worshipping at an Agiyari and participating in funeral at Tower of Silence.
Advocate Kavina appearing on behalf of Goolrokh mentioned that the issue was significant as it was a matter of civil rights and not religious or legal rights. During his submissions, he made a reference to a few judgments of Bombay High Court The next hearing has been scheduled on August 4.
Point made and taken, Goolrukh!Good luck!
If she is a born parsi zoroastrian and if she is following zoroastrian religion even to-day after marrying a non-parsi, then she must be allowed in the agiyari. Nobody can stop her from entering a place of worship.
I am glad that this brave lady has taken the matter to court. Shame on us!
Discrimination is against the law in India!
Point made and taken, Goolrukh!Good luck!
Point made and taken, Goolrukh!Good luck!
Wow! New Circus in town.
If she is a born parsi zoroastrian and if she is following zoroastrian religion even to-day after marrying a non-parsi, then she must be allowed in the agiyari. Nobody can stop her from entering a place of worship.
If she is a born parsi zoroastrian and if she is following zoroastrian religion even to-day after marrying a non-parsi, then she must be allowed in the agiyari. Nobody can stop her from entering a place of worship.
I am glad that this brave lady has taken the matter to court. Shame on us!
I am glad that this brave lady has taken the matter to court. Shame on us!
In totality I fully agree with the petitioner Ms Goolrokh Gupta, whose argument is that, while Parsi men married to non-Parsis are allowed to enjoy all religious rights, and why women are discriminated against enjoying the same right? It is a very vital and valid point of argument which in my honest opinion any sensible Parsi community leader(s) will and should agree with. Parsi Society is welknown since ages for its outgoing modern ideological thinking with an ongoing modern world of present days. On top of all these law of the land should always be equal for everyone, no one in this time of modern history is above the law. So why should there be an injustice between Parsi men and Parsi women. Justice should be served equal. I salute and support strongly to Ms Goolrokh Gupta for taking up matter with the legal authorities in India and hope to straighten out things once for all.
Good luck and may God bless you!!
=K.K.MISTRY= VICTORIA, TX USA AUG 1, MON 10:02 AM
Discrimination is against the law in India!
Discrimination is against the law in India!
Wow! New Circus in town.
Wow! New Circus in town.
In totality I fully agree with the petitioner Ms Goolrokh Gupta, whose argument is that, while Parsi men married to non-Parsis are allowed to enjoy all religious rights, and why women are discriminated against enjoying the same right? It is a very vital and valid point of argument which in my honest opinion any sensible Parsi community leader(s) will and should agree with. Parsi Society is welknown since ages for its outgoing modern ideological thinking with an ongoing modern world of present days. On top of all these law of the land should always be equal for everyone, no one in this time of modern history is above the law. So why should there be an injustice between Parsi men and Parsi women. Justice should be served equal. I salute and support strongly to Ms Goolrokh Gupta for taking up matter with the legal authorities in India and hope to straighten out things once for all.
Good luck and may God bless you!!
=K.K.MISTRY= VICTORIA, TX USA AUG 1, MON 10:02 AM
In totality I fully agree with the petitioner Ms Goolrokh Gupta, whose argument is that, while Parsi men married to non-Parsis are allowed to enjoy all religious rights, and why women are discriminated against enjoying the same right? It is a very vital and valid point of argument which in my honest opinion any sensible Parsi community leader(s) will and should agree with. Parsi Society is welknown since ages for its outgoing modern ideological thinking with an ongoing modern world of present days. On top of all these law of the land should always be equal for everyone, no one in this time of modern history is above the law. So why should there be an injustice between Parsi men and Parsi women. Justice should be served equal. I salute and support strongly to Ms Goolrokh Gupta for taking up matter with the legal authorities in India and hope to straighten out things once for all.
Good luck and may God bless you!!
=K.K.MISTRY= VICTORIA, TX USA AUG 1, MON 10:02 AM
It would be interesting to see how the court rules.
It would be interesting to see how the court rules.
It would be interesting to see how the court rules.
All this is too false and uncalled for – I too am married to a non-parsi – am all for the fight against such discrimination – wish you all the luck
This is very absurd in a modern world.We Parsi’s are always considered a sensible community & majority of us are well educated but,why still we have to tolerate this kind of non-sensible things in this era.I’m a parsi man & also I’m married to a hindu but, still if Mrs. Gupta is not allowed to enter or go to our religous places then I chose not to go as well. All human beings are equal under GOD.
All this is too false and uncalled for – I too am married to a non-parsi – am all for the fight against such discrimination – wish you all the luck
All this is too false and uncalled for – I too am married to a non-parsi – am all for the fight against such discrimination – wish you all the luck
This is very absurd in a modern world.We Parsi’s are always considered a sensible community & majority of us are well educated but,why still we have to tolerate this kind of non-sensible things in this era.I’m a parsi man & also I’m married to a hindu but, still if Mrs. Gupta is not allowed to enter or go to our religous places then I chose not to go as well. All human beings are equal under GOD.
This is very absurd in a modern world.We Parsi’s are always considered a sensible community & majority of us are well educated but,why still we have to tolerate this kind of non-sensible things in this era.I’m a parsi man & also I’m married to a hindu but, still if Mrs. Gupta is not allowed to enter or go to our religous places then I chose not to go as well. All human beings are equal under GOD.
it shows IGNORANCE not only of Mazdiyasni Zarathoshti religion but also of Public Trusts Act and the Deed of Trust. i can’t imagine ignorance of legal fraternity in such cases
it shows IGNORANCE not only of Mazdiyasni Zarathoshti religion but also of Public Trusts Act and the Deed of Trust. i can’t imagine ignorance of legal fraternity in such cases
it shows IGNORANCE not only of Mazdiyasni Zarathoshti religion but also of Public Trusts Act and the Deed of Trust. i can’t imagine ignorance of legal fraternity in such cases
this seems to be a circus for you keki???????i think you should think twice before you make comments like these.A priest is allowed to marry outside the community and allowed to continue worshipping and conducting the rituals of the holy fire!his children are given the right to a navjote!However parsi women marrying outside the faith and are practicing zoroasstrians are debarred from worship and other rituals at places of worship!!!This is ground reality and not an entertainment like a circus.
this seems to be a circus for you keki???????i think you should think twice before you make comments like these.A priest is allowed to marry outside the community and allowed to continue worshipping and conducting the rituals of the holy fire!his children are given the right to a navjote!However parsi women marrying outside the faith and are practicing zoroasstrians are debarred from worship and other rituals at places of worship!!!This is ground reality and not an entertainment like a circus.
this seems to be a circus for you keki???????i think you should think twice before you make comments like these.A priest is allowed to marry outside the community and allowed to continue worshipping and conducting the rituals of the holy fire!his children are given the right to a navjote!However parsi women marrying outside the faith and are practicing zoroasstrians are debarred from worship and other rituals at places of worship!!!This is ground reality and not an entertainment like a circus.
Yes Xerxes, You are right. Any Parsee ordained into the faith by virtue of a Navjote is entitled to enter into precincts of any Paresee Zoroastrian Fire Temple. Just because she is married to a non Zoroastrian cannot be a valid ground for denial of entry. As it is, there is a dearth of devotees and some crank organisations are interested in stirring up needles controversies to just hog the limelight.What these shameless hypocrites achieved by stopping development of a Building for Parsees adjacent to Dadysett Atashbehram is that the Holy Fire has been deprived of Devotees.Will Ahura Mazda ever forgive them ever?
Yes Xerxes, You are right. Any Parsee ordained into the faith by virtue of a Navjote is entitled to enter into precincts of any Paresee Zoroastrian Fire Temple. Just because she is married to a non Zoroastrian cannot be a valid ground for denial of entry. As it is, there is a dearth of devotees and some crank organisations are interested in stirring up needles controversies to just hog the limelight.What these shameless hypocrites achieved by stopping development of a Building for Parsees adjacent to Dadysett Atashbehram is that the Holy Fire has been deprived of Devotees.Will Ahura Mazda ever forgive them ever?
Yes Xerxes, You are right. Any Parsee ordained into the faith by virtue of a Navjote is entitled to enter into precincts of any Paresee Zoroastrian Fire Temple. Just because she is married to a non Zoroastrian cannot be a valid ground for denial of entry. As it is, there is a dearth of devotees and some crank organisations are interested in stirring up needles controversies to just hog the limelight.What these shameless hypocrites achieved by stopping development of a Building for Parsees adjacent to Dadysett Atashbehram is that the Holy Fire has been deprived of Devotees.Will Ahura Mazda ever forgive them ever?
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you are stinking up the reputation of the community.)
Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
We point fingers at the Muslims but we are just as bad when it comes to sexism.
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you are stinking up the reputation of the community.)
Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you as well as these racist priests are stinking up the reputation of the community.)
Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
We point fingers at the Muslims but we are just as bad when it comes to sexism.
We point fingers at the Muslims but we are just as bad when it comes to sexism.
Bloody rubbish. How stupid! I can’t believe that in this day and age we have such racist, sexist priests that would stoop to such a low act. We point fingers at the Muslims but are we any different?
It is bad enought that our whole community in South Asia is going the way of the dinosaur with these racist policies. It is bad enough that our young people lack any kind of vision and entrepreneal zeal, being all too happy to sit at home on their butts hoping for a job at Jet Airways! (just hanging out and doing light jobs and happy to have practically free rent and no dreams and no vision except for a quick screw!) It is bad enough that too many of our young people have no respect whatsoever for their elders or the community. (When I was in one of the “baugs” I asked for directions and was told to “Fu$% off!”) It is bad enough, and I am very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that many of our members in the community in Pakistan and India still smell. (Deekras, taking a bath is noth enough. You must wash your clothes frequently because the smell of your cooking goes into the clothes. That, and the racist policies of the BPP are stinking up the reputation of the community.)
On top of all these problems, we have priests that take it upon themselves to play the part of Hitler to keep the race “pure” (not that it is pure, heaven knows, we are as mixed race as anybody else). No wonder the community is disappearing. Not only will they not allow converts, but they will not allow Parsi-born women who have married with non-Parsis entry into the agiaries!
Bawajis, please go to Karachi and take a look at the future of the community in India in a very short time. These crazy policies are doing what no Muslim invasion could do; bring the Parsi community to its’ knees!
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you as well as these racist priests are stinking up the reputation of the community.) Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who Have affairs with married parsi ladies and still try to dictate their terms a shamefull act of the community head priest no body hasd the guts to say as they have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
We all support the fight against gender discrimination as our society is the first in giving rights equally to the daughter in the ancestral property why not in religious rights it should be.
Well the Nagpur Parsi community needs to take note of this and stop acting to the whims and fancies of a priest, who instead of setting up a good example is hell bent on acting rigid. How come the Parsi brigade is not counselling the Priest when it so easily counsels the layman by dropping in at their house and creating a ruckus ?? Are they really the well-wishers or are they having fun at someone’s personal expense??
Me and my son were refused to even sit for a jashan, at our own home,refused to be let on the stage while my one and only sis was getting married & not allowed to sit in for my Dad’s death ceremony and now even after 5 years of divorce am not allowed in the agiyary, the excuse being given that I was married by the Hindu Pheras and we call ourselves educated !! Don’t know if newspapers are read but it clearly was in the headlines saying that even if a woman has married by the Hindu rites , it does not mean changing one’s religion. I do not mind adhering to the law if its the same for everyone without any bias or prejudice, but this is ridiculous..This really should change as no human being has the right to take away from you your basic rights of attending to your dad’s death rituals or a happy event for that matter. I still remeber a event where a priest from Udvada had commented publicly to a old lady’s question, that why is Navjote not performed for children of such unions.His reply still rings in my ears- CHILDREN BORN OF ANY SUCH UNIONS ARE BASTARDS !!! The pin-drop silence that followed shows how orthodox we still are…If at the age of 18 and 20 my cousins Anahita’s and Ayesha’s navjote can be done in the USA, with the news being splashed all over the Parsiana then why not of my son’s who is 16 ??? Would he be allowed to enter the Agiary I wonder ?? And, why should I get it done outside Nagpur, where my friends and relatives are ?? Grow up people…before the community is as extinct as the dinosaurs !!
Guess keki was talking abt the cicus going on in our community…where priests are acting loftily and acting as Gods themselves…
My mother’s Parsi, and father’s Muslim. And I was always told that I was NOT allowed to even wander near the so-called holy Fire Temple while all my other friends would happily go inside, do all their praying business and then come out and talk about it. This is ridiculous. Also, if a man marries a non Parsi, that’s absolutely fine. But if a woman even dares to marry a someone out of her religion, she’s an outcast? Seriously? You consider yourself to be socially FAST FORWARD and you still practice these stupid rituals. Sorry, but I feel embarrassed to call myself a Parsi.
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you as well as these racist priests are stinking up the reputation of the community.) Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who Have affairs with married parsi ladies and still try to dictate their terms a shamefull act of the community head priest no body hasd the guts to say as they have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
It is this type of stupid, backward thinking that is helping to eradicate the community all together. How can we point fingers at others while we ourselves have such racist, insular thinking priests? It is bad enough that the community is so Anglo-Saxon-minded that we don’t know it is time to stop following them and to start seeking our futures in Asia. (In this respect, most Parsis can tell the sheet from the trees.) It is bad enough that most Parsi youth have become so lazy and disrespectful of their elders and their community that the community is being sapped of its vigor. (Honestly, the last time I was in one of the “baugs” I felt frightened and was insulted when I asked for directions.) It is bad enough that we are so lacking in modern-day leaders that hardly a day goes by without some Parsi or the other invoking the name of his holiness JRD Tata. (At this rate we may as well just erect his statue in the agiaries and bow and pray to his image.) And, I am really very sorry to say this, but it is bad enough that to this day a lot of the community in India and Pakistan still smells. (Deekras, on top of taking a bath, get a good deodorant and wash your clothes daily because the smell of your cooking gets into your clothes and you as well as these racist priests are stinking up the reputation of the community.) Shame, shame, shame. On top of all this we have these crazy priests who Have affairs with married parsi ladies and still try to dictate their terms a shamefull act of the community head priest no body hasd the guts to say as they have decided to play Hitler and to “keep the community pure.” No wonder the community is disappearing. At this rate we will soon become a memory.
We all support the fight against gender discrimination as our society is the first in giving rights equally to the daughter in the ancestral property why not in religious rights it should be.
We all support the fight against gender discrimination as our society is the first in giving rights equally to the daughter in the ancestral property why not in religious rights it should be.
Well the Nagpur Parsi community needs to take note of this and stop acting to the whims and fancies of a priest, who instead of setting up a good example is hell bent on acting rigid. How come the Parsi brigade is not counselling the Priest when it so easily counsels the layman by dropping in at their house and creating a ruckus ?? Are they really the well-wishers or are they having fun at someone’s personal expense??
Me and my son were refused to even sit for a jashan, at our own home,refused to be let on the stage while my one and only sis was getting married & not allowed to sit in for my Dad’s death ceremony and now even after 5 years of divorce am not allowed in the agiyary, the excuse being given that I was married by the Hindu Pheras and we call ourselves educated !! Don’t know if newspapers are read but it clearly was in the headlines saying that even if a woman has married by the Hindu rites , it does not mean changing one’s religion. I do not mind adhering to the law if its the same for everyone without any bias or prejudice, but this is ridiculous..This really should change as no human being has the right to take away from you your basic rights of attending to your dad’s death rituals or a happy event for that matter. I still remeber a event where a priest from Udvada had commented publicly to a old lady’s question, that why is Navjote not performed for children of such unions.His reply still rings in my ears- CHILDREN BORN OF ANY SUCH UNIONS ARE BASTARDS !!! The pin-drop silence that followed shows how orthodox we still are…If at the age of 18 and 20 my cousins Anahita’s and Ayesha’s navjote can be done in the USA, with the news being splashed all over the Parsiana then why not of my son’s who is 16 ??? Would he be allowed to enter the Agiary I wonder ?? And, why should I get it done outside Nagpur, where my friends and relatives are ?? Grow up people…before the community is as extinct as the dinosaurs !!
Well the Nagpur Parsi community needs to take note of this and stop acting to the whims and fancies of a priest, who instead of setting up a good example is hell bent on acting rigid. How come the Parsi brigade is not counselling the Priest when it so easily counsels the layman by dropping in at their house and creating a ruckus ?? Are they really the well-wishers or are they having fun at someone’s personal expense??
Me and my son were refused to even sit for a jashan, at our own home,refused to be let on the stage while my one and only sis was getting married & not allowed to sit in for my Dad’s death ceremony and now even after 5 years of divorce am not allowed in the agiyary, the excuse being given that I was married by the Hindu Pheras and we call ourselves educated !! Don’t know if newspapers are read but it clearly was in the headlines saying that even if a woman has married by the Hindu rites , it does not mean changing one’s religion. I do not mind adhering to the law if its the same for everyone without any bias or prejudice, but this is ridiculous..This really should change as no human being has the right to take away from you your basic rights of attending to your dad’s death rituals or a happy event for that matter. I still remeber a event where a priest from Udvada had commented publicly to a old lady’s question, that why is Navjote not performed for children of such unions.His reply still rings in my ears- CHILDREN BORN OF ANY SUCH UNIONS ARE BASTARDS !!! The pin-drop silence that followed shows how orthodox we still are…If at the age of 18 and 20 my cousins Anahita’s and Ayesha’s navjote can be done in the USA, with the news being splashed all over the Parsiana then why not of my son’s who is 16 ??? Would he be allowed to enter the Agiary I wonder ?? And, why should I get it done outside Nagpur, where my friends and relatives are ?? Grow up people…before the community is as extinct as the dinosaurs !!
Guess keki was talking abt the cicus going on in our community…where priests are acting loftily and acting as Gods themselves…
Guess keki was talking abt the cicus going on in our community…where priests are acting loftily and acting as Gods themselves…
My mother’s Parsi, and father’s Muslim. And I was always told that I was NOT allowed to even wander near the so-called holy Fire Temple while all my other friends would happily go inside, do all their praying business and then come out and talk about it. This is ridiculous. Also, if a man marries a non Parsi, that’s absolutely fine. But if a woman even dares to marry a someone out of her religion, she’s an outcast? Seriously? You consider yourself to be socially FAST FORWARD and you still practice these stupid rituals. Sorry, but I feel embarrassed to call myself a Parsi.
My mother’s Parsi, and father’s Muslim. And I was always told that I was NOT allowed to even wander near the so-called holy Fire Temple while all my other friends would happily go inside, do all their praying business and then come out and talk about it. This is ridiculous. Also, if a man marries a non Parsi, that’s absolutely fine. But if a woman even dares to marry a someone out of her religion, she’s an outcast? Seriously? You consider yourself to be socially FAST FORWARD and you still practice these stupid rituals. Sorry, but I feel embarrassed to call myself a Parsi.
I am a child of a union between a non parsi woman and a parsi man. My navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age. I married a hindu, and separated about 3 years ago. A few months ago, i began to feel like my son ought to have the choice of which faith he wants to follow, and began looking up the parsi community on the internet. Understand that i have been more or less out of touch with the community for over ten years, therefore i may be excused for having some delusions about the tukka tukka frock wearing modernism of the community. What i read, what i saw, was disgusting.
For all who care to know, I reject this community on behalf of my son. I would much rather he grew up without a religious anchor than become a member of such hypocritical self-aggrandizing community. My son and i don’t need sanction from anyone to practice any faith, and any religion that has appointed watchdogs such as the ones being discussed, we don’t want to be a part of.
We celebrate Navroz without going to the agyari, birthdays, diwali and even christmas are marked by chappas at the doorstep , we have a toran hanging on our door, my gara is my most prized possession. But that’s where it ends for us.
I represent a lot of women who have given up on the community. People like Behroze_r and her cousins who still give a damn are a minority, the rest of us couldn’t care less. Good luck with everything.
This sort of hypocrisy should be totally rejected by the Parsis who are one one hand call themselves an educated and forward thinking community and on the other hand still have different rules for the men and women, I totally agree with my sister Behroze and still regret not standing up and fighting when she was not allowed on stage at my wedding and was not allowed to attend my dad’s last rites/prayers. Why?
I am a child of a union between a non parsi woman and a parsi man. My navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age. I married a hindu, and separated about 3 years ago. A few months ago, i began to feel like my son ought to have the choice of which faith he wants to follow, and began looking up the parsi community on the internet. Understand that i have been more or less out of touch with the community for over ten years, therefore i may be excused for having some delusions about the tukka tukka frock wearing modernism of the community. What i read, what i saw, was disgusting.
For all who care to know, I reject this community on behalf of my son. I would much rather he grew up without a religious anchor than become a member of such hypocritical self-aggrandizing community. My son and i don’t need sanction from anyone to practice any faith, and any religion that has appointed watchdogs such as the ones being discussed, we don’t want to be a part of.
We celebrate Navroz without going to the agyari, birthdays, diwali and even christmas are marked by chappas at the doorstep , we have a toran hanging on our door, my gara is my most prized possession. But that’s where it ends for us.
I represent a lot of women who have given up on the community. People like Behroze_r and her cousins who still give a damn are a minority, the rest of us couldn’t care less. Good luck with everything.
I am a child of a union between a non parsi woman and a parsi man. My navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age. I married a hindu, and separated about 3 years ago. A few months ago, i began to feel like my son ought to have the choice of which faith he wants to follow, and began looking up the parsi community on the internet. Understand that i have been more or less out of touch with the community for over ten years, therefore i may be excused for having some delusions about the tukka tukka frock wearing modernism of the community. What i read, what i saw, was disgusting.
For all who care to know, I reject this community on behalf of my son. I would much rather he grew up without a religious anchor than become a member of such hypocritical self-aggrandizing community. My son and i don’t need sanction from anyone to practice any faith, and any religion that has appointed watchdogs such as the ones being discussed, we don’t want to be a part of.
We celebrate Navroz without going to the agyari, birthdays, diwali and even christmas are marked by chappas at the doorstep , we have a toran hanging on our door, my gara is my most prized possession. But that’s where it ends for us.
I represent a lot of women who have given up on the community. People like Behroze_r and her cousins who still give a damn are a minority, the rest of us couldn’t care less. Good luck with everything.
I am a child of a union between a non parsi woman and a parsi man. My navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age. I married a hindu, and separated about 3 years ago. A few months ago, i began to feel like my son ought to have the choice of which faith he wants to follow, and began looking up the parsi community on the internet. Understand that i have been more or less out of touch with the community for over ten years, therefore i may be excused for having some delusions about the tukka tukka frock wearing modernism of the community. What i read, what i saw, was disgusting.
For all who care to know, I reject this community on behalf of my son. I would much rather he grew up without a religious anchor than become a member of such hypocritical self-aggrandizing community. My son and i don’t need sanction from anyone to practice any faith, and any religion that has appointed watchdogs such as the ones being discussed, we don’t want to be a part of.
We celebrate Navroz without going to the agyari, birthdays, diwali and even christmas are marked by chappas at the doorstep , we have a toran hanging on our door, my gara is my most prized possession. But that’s where it ends for us.
I represent a lot of women who have given up on the community. People like Behroze_r and her cousins who still give a damn are a minority, the rest of us couldn’t care less. Good luck with everything.
This sort of hypocrisy should be totally rejected by the Parsis who are one one hand call themselves an educated and forward thinking community and on the other hand still have different rules for the men and women, I totally agree with my sister Behroze and still regret not standing up and fighting when she was not allowed on stage at my wedding and was not allowed to attend my dad’s last rites/prayers. Why?
This sort of hypocrisy should be totally rejected by the Parsis who are one one hand call themselves an educated and forward thinking community and on the other hand still have different rules for the men and women, I totally agree with my sister Behroze and still regret not standing up and fighting when she was not allowed on stage at my wedding and was not allowed to attend my dad’s last rites/prayers. Why?
Very much right. We have to give same right to woman what man has. After she is also same as man too
Very much right. We have to give same right to woman what man has. After she is also same as man too
Very much right. We have to give same right to woman what man has. After she is also same as man too
Parsi Priests grumble that they are not paid enough..These are idiots of economics… How can they expect to earn decent income if they themselves stop ppl from coming to agiaries….After all what is agiaries other than a work shop for priests? and who are priest other than chanters of prayers?They should come to sense and stop making themselves more important than what they really are…
Parsi Priests grumble that they are not paid enough..These are idiots of economics… How can they expect to earn decent income if they themselves stop ppl from coming to agiaries….After all what is agiaries other than a work shop for priests? and who are priest other than chanters of prayers?They should come to sense and stop making themselves more important than what they really are…
Parsi Priests grumble that they are not paid enough..These are idiots of economics… How can they expect to earn decent income if they themselves stop ppl from coming to agiaries….After all what is agiaries other than a work shop for priests? and who are priest other than chanters of prayers?They should come to sense and stop making themselves more important than what they really are…
Surprising that in this day and age, we still have such discrimination between the sexes. Following a religion was supposed to be a matter of faith, but it seems more of a matter of ruling in this case. That’s exactly why I refused to follow one and evidently a lot of people are doing the same thing. No wonder people are not happy. No one can live constrained.
Hope they’d understand that rules are not important… people are.
Surprising that in this day and age, we still have such discrimination between the sexes. Following a religion was supposed to be a matter of faith, but it seems more of a matter of ruling in this case. That’s exactly why I refused to follow one and evidently a lot of people are doing the same thing. No wonder people are not happy. No one can live constrained.
Hope they’d understand that rules are not important… people are.
Surprising that in this day and age, we still have such discrimination between the sexes. Following a religion was supposed to be a matter of faith, but it seems more of a matter of ruling in this case. That’s exactly why I refused to follow one and evidently a lot of people are doing the same thing. No wonder people are not happy. No one can live constrained.
Hope they’d understand that rules are not important… people are.
I am a Parsi woman, married to a Non Parsi at the age of 25, and sorry but I just can’t say I could’nt
care about how I am supposed to pray, because I do care. We have to keep fighting. One day we will
succeed.
Enough of this untouchable treatment from people who don’t have any authority to do so.
God bless all of us who are trying to raise a voice.
I am a Parsi woman, married to a Non Parsi at the age of 25, and sorry but I just can’t say I could’nt
care about how I am supposed to pray, because I do care. We have to keep fighting. One day we will
succeed.
Enough of this untouchable treatment from people who don’t have any authority to do so.
God bless all of us who are trying to raise a voice.
I am a Parsi woman, married to a Non Parsi at the age of 25, and sorry but I just can’t say I could’nt
care about how I am supposed to pray, because I do care. We have to keep fighting. One day we will
succeed.
Enough of this untouchable treatment from people who don’t have any authority to do so.
God bless all of us who are trying to raise a voice.
The last line of this article says “The next hearing has been scheduled on August 4.”
We are now on September 7th.
Please may we have an update?
The last line of this article says “The next hearing has been scheduled on August 4.”
We are now on September 7th.
Please may we have an update?
The last line of this article says “The next hearing has been scheduled on August 4.”
We are now on September 7th.
Please may we have an update?
Trustees in their next public meeting can give latest update on this court case. Each individual must follow their own consicence to follow religion. No trustee can force you to do what they want.
Trustees in their next public meeting can give latest update on this court case. Each individual must follow their own consicence to follow religion. No trustee can force you to do what they want.
Trustees in their next public meeting can give latest update on this court case. Each individual must follow their own consicence to follow religion. No trustee can force you to do what they want.
Dear Arzan,
In what way B.P.P. is concerned with affairs of Valsad though as usual have tried to poke their nose in this matter. There are innumerable Parsee women married to husbands belonging to another religious denomination entering Fire Temples in Mumbai and even the concerned Panthakies and Priests present are aware of this. Yet they cannot do anything. Valsad seems to be an isolated case of extremist fundamentalism.
Dear Arzan,
In what way B.P.P. is concerned with affairs of Valsad though as usual have tried to poke their nose in this matter. There are innumerable Parsee women married to husbands belonging to another religious denomination entering Fire Temples in Mumbai and even the concerned Panthakies and Priests present are aware of this. Yet they cannot do anything. Valsad seems to be an isolated case of extremist fundamentalism.
Dear Arzan,
In what way B.P.P. is concerned with affairs of Valsad though as usual have tried to poke their nose in this matter. There are innumerable Parsee women married to husbands belonging to another religious denomination entering Fire Temples in Mumbai and even the concerned Panthakies and Priests present are aware of this. Yet they cannot do anything. Valsad seems to be an isolated case of extremist fundamentalism.
I was watching a documentary made by the BBC about Alexander the Great, and in one part the narrator, Michael Wood, went to Iran to the Holiest of Holy fires of our faith, and guess what, Michael was right there in front of our original fire and filming while the Dastoors prayed!!
What makes us Indian Zoroastrians so stupidly dogmatic and obstinate? God belongs to everyone, and if a girl has married a non-Parsi but at heart remains true to our faith (not our religion, which is man-made, but our faith which was given to us by Zarthust Paigambar) then God will accept her prayers and welcome her into His Agiary as readily as a man who has done the same. Priests and religious leaders need to remember, the Agiary is not theirs, it is God’s and Ahuramazda didn’t discriminate in the beginning, and He does not discriminate now. All He wants is a pure heart filled with love for God. Change or perish, that is what the Parsi community needs to understand.
I was watching a documentary made by the BBC about Alexander the Great, and in one part the narrator, Michael Wood, went to Iran to the Holiest of Holy fires of our faith, and guess what, Michael was right there in front of our original fire and filming while the Dastoors prayed!!
What makes us Indian Zoroastrians so stupidly dogmatic and obstinate? God belongs to everyone, and if a girl has married a non-Parsi but at heart remains true to our faith (not our religion, which is man-made, but our faith which was given to us by Zarthust Paigambar) then God will accept her prayers and welcome her into His Agiary as readily as a man who has done the same. Priests and religious leaders need to remember, the Agiary is not theirs, it is God’s and Ahuramazda didn’t discriminate in the beginning, and He does not discriminate now. All He wants is a pure heart filled with love for God. Change or perish, that is what the Parsi community needs to understand.
I was watching a documentary made by the BBC about Alexander the Great, and in one part the narrator, Michael Wood, went to Iran to the Holiest of Holy fires of our faith, and guess what, Michael was right there in front of our original fire and filming while the Dastoors prayed!!
What makes us Indian Zoroastrians so stupidly dogmatic and obstinate? God belongs to everyone, and if a girl has married a non-Parsi but at heart remains true to our faith (not our religion, which is man-made, but our faith which was given to us by Zarthust Paigambar) then God will accept her prayers and welcome her into His Agiary as readily as a man who has done the same. Priests and religious leaders need to remember, the Agiary is not theirs, it is God’s and Ahuramazda didn’t discriminate in the beginning, and He does not discriminate now. All He wants is a pure heart filled with love for God. Change or perish, that is what the Parsi community needs to understand.
But since one of your parents was a non-parsi, you were not a parsi to start of with, so where is the question of being a “woman who has given up on the community”?
But since one of your parents was a non-parsi, you were not a parsi to start of with, so where is the question of being a “woman who has given up on the community”?
But since one of your parents was a non-parsi, you were not a parsi to start of with, so where is the question of being a “woman who has given up on the community”?
Her father was a Parsi. So she is a Born Parsi. Now that she is married to a hindu and separated, She again must follow Parsi Religion only. Nobody can stop her from following Parsi Religion because she is a born parsi Zoroastrian and I presume her navjote must have been done.
Her father was a Parsi. So she is a Born Parsi. Now that she is married to a hindu and separated, She again must follow Parsi Religion only. Nobody can stop her from following Parsi Religion because she is a born parsi Zoroastrian and I presume her navjote must have been done.
Her father was a Parsi. So she is a Born Parsi. Now that she is married to a hindu and separated, She again must follow Parsi Religion only. Nobody can stop her from following Parsi Religion because she is a born parsi Zoroastrian and I presume her navjote must have been done.
Her father was a Parsi. So she is a Born Parsi. Now that she is married to a hindu and separated, She again must follow Parsi Religion only. Nobody can stop her from following Parsi Religion because she is a born parsi Zoroastrian and I presume her navjote must have been done.
Why presume, gb?
She says her ”navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age.”
Why presume, gb?
She says her “navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age.”
Why presume, gb?
She says her “navjot ceremony was conducted at the ‘right’ age.”
Couldnt care less – I love your expression. I left the community when I was 23, 29 years ago when the Panthaki warned me – if you marry an outsider, you will never be allowed to enter the agiary again – he said. I never stepped into one since then. Stupid narrow minded control freaks is what comes to my mind. Thank YOU for echoing my sentiments. I also have a son who very much wanted to be Parsi as a little boy. You know, it does not matter what the ‘controller’ say. My family and friends and every acquaintance always treat me as a parsi! And that I love very much.
Couldnt care less – I love your expression. I left the community when I was 23, 29 years ago when the Panthaki warned me – if you marry an outsider, you will never be allowed to enter the agiary again – he said. I never stepped into one since then. Stupid narrow minded control freaks is what comes to my mind. Thank YOU for echoing my sentiments. I also have a son who very much wanted to be Parsi as a little boy. You know, it does not matter what the ‘controller’ say. My family and friends and every acquaintance always treat me as a parsi! And that I love very much.
Couldnt care less – I love your expression. I left the community when I was 23, 29 years ago when the Panthaki warned me – if you marry an outsider, you will never be allowed to enter the agiary again – he said. I never stepped into one since then. Stupid narrow minded control freaks is what comes to my mind. Thank YOU for echoing my sentiments. I also have a son who very much wanted to be Parsi as a little boy. You know, it does not matter what the ‘controller’ say. My family and friends and every acquaintance always treat me as a parsi! And that I love very much.
Couldnt care less – I love your expression. I left the community when I was 23, 29 years ago when the Panthaki warned me – if you marry an outsider, you will never be allowed to enter the agiary again – he said. I never stepped into one since then. Stupid narrow minded control freaks is what comes to my mind. Thank YOU for echoing my sentiments. I also have a son who very much wanted to be Parsi as a little boy. You know, it does not matter what the ‘controller’ say. My family and friends and every acquaintance always treat me as a parsi! And that I love very much.
If religion is man made who built “His Agiary”???????? To whom does the Agiary belong???????
If religion is man made who built “His Agiary”???????? To whom does the Agiary belong???????
If religion is man made who built “His Agiary”???????? To whom does the Agiary belong???????
The larger communities lose little or nothing by mixed marriages; it is the smaller one that is swamped o overwhelmed, so as to lose its communal identity. Nay, the bigger communities even gain in volume by such marriages, as the ocean gains in bulk by the absorption of the streams while it is the stream that is lost beyond recognition in the process.
The bigger communities can afford to sleep over this matter, which is of vital importance to the Parsis who must ‘Awake, arise or be forever fallen. What is wanted is an ardent desire to maintain our communal existence”Parsis and Racial Suicide” by Prof. Firoz Davar (p. 49-50)
These disasters are occurring because the so called Wada Dastoors, High Priests are introducing their own private interpretations of the scriptures as they know that the community is ignorant and will obey anything they say, as they have done for centuries. After arriving in India from Iran, the true ancient philosophies of our Holy Prophet is perhaps hidden, ignored or changed from time to time by them to suit their own selfish motives. Who can understand what is going on in their minds ? Mazdayasni Zarathoshti Din is Universal. Believing and trusting only in one Pak Dadar Ahura Mazda, our creator, is the right of every human being. It is to be practiced sincerely from heart continuously and no one can stop you or take it away from you. After the population of Iran was converted to Islam, our ancestors have proved, that WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA IN THEIR HEART THEY CAN STILL SURVIVE ON THE SOIL OF IRAN AND INDIA AND ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. AND YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT WE ALL HAVE SURVIVED TILL TODAY. So please do not be discouraged by the corrupt religious and community leaders. Do not leave or change your Faith. DO NOT RUN AWAY. That is the biggest weakness you all are showing. That’s why they are succeeding in closing the doors of the Atash Behrams and Agyaris for people who do not follow their dictates. WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT AGAINST FALSE TEACHERS AND LEADERS UNTILL YOU SUCCEED IN CHANGING THE FALSE LAWS INTO RIGHT AND MAKE THEM OPEN THE GATES OF ATASH BEHRAMS AND AGYARIS FOR THE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHET ZARATHUSHTRA AND WORHIPERS OF PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA. First study and understand the religion yourself properly, specially the Gathas of Asho Spitma Zarathushtra, our Holy Righteous Prophet who said “BEWARE OF THE FALSE TEACHERS.” Study your own history and then FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT.
ZARATHOSHTIS, BE BOLD AND STRONG AND NEVER GIVE UP.
The larger communities lose little or nothing by mixed marriages; it is the smaller one that is swamped o overwhelmed, so as to lose its communal identity. Nay, the bigger communities even gain in volume by such marriages, as the ocean gains in bulk by the absorption of the streams while it is the stream that is lost beyond recognition in the process.
The bigger communities can afford to sleep over this matter, which is of vital importance to the Parsis who must ‘Awake, arise or be forever fallen. What is wanted is an ardent desire to maintain our communal existence“Parsis and Racial Suicide” by Prof. Firoz Davar (p. 49-50)
The larger communities lose little or nothing by mixed marriages; it is the smaller one that is swamped o overwhelmed, so as to lose its communal identity. Nay, the bigger communities even gain in volume by such marriages, as the ocean gains in bulk by the absorption of the streams while it is the stream that is lost beyond recognition in the process.
The bigger communities can afford to sleep over this matter, which is of vital importance to the Parsis who must ‘Awake, arise or be forever fallen. What is wanted is an ardent desire to maintain our communal existence“Parsis and Racial Suicide” by Prof. Firoz Davar (p. 49-50)
These disasters are occurring because the so called Wada Dastoors, High Priests are introducing their own private interpretations of the scriptures as they know that the community is ignorant and will obey anything they say, as they have done for centuries. After arriving in India from Iran, the true ancient philosophies of our Holy Prophet is perhaps hidden, ignored or changed from time to time by them to suit their own selfish motives. Who can understand what is going on in their minds ? Mazdayasni Zarathoshti Din is Universal. Believing and trusting only in one Pak Dadar Ahura Mazda, our creator, is the right of every human being. It is to be practiced sincerely from heart continuously and no one can stop you or take it away from you. After the population of Iran was converted to Islam, our ancestors have proved, that WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA IN THEIR HEART THEY CAN STILL SURVIVE ON THE SOIL OF IRAN AND INDIA AND ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. AND YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT WE ALL HAVE SURVIVED TILL TODAY. So please do not be discouraged by the corrupt religious and community leaders. Do not leave or change your Faith. DO NOT RUN AWAY. That is the biggest weakness you all are showing. That’s why they are succeeding in closing the doors of the Atash Behrams and Agyaris for people who do not follow their dictates. WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT AGAINST FALSE TEACHERS AND LEADERS UNTILL YOU SUCCEED IN CHANGING THE FALSE LAWS INTO RIGHT AND MAKE THEM OPEN THE GATES OF ATASH BEHRAMS AND AGYARIS FOR THE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHET ZARATHUSHTRA AND WORHIPERS OF PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA. First study and understand the religion yourself properly, specially the Gathas of Asho Spitma Zarathushtra, our Holy Righteous Prophet who said “BEWARE OF THE FALSE TEACHERS.” Study your own history and then FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT.
ZARATHOSHTIS, BE BOLD AND STRONG AND NEVER GIVE UP.
These disasters are occurring because the so called Wada Dastoors, High Priests are introducing their own private interpretations of the scriptures as they know that the community is ignorant and will obey anything they say, as they have done for centuries. After arriving in India from Iran, the true ancient philosophies of our Holy Prophet is perhaps hidden, ignored or changed from time to time by them to suit their own selfish motives. Who can understand what is going on in their minds ? Mazdayasni Zarathoshti Din is Universal. Believing and trusting only in one Pak Dadar Ahura Mazda, our creator, is the right of every human being. It is to be practiced sincerely from heart continuously and no one can stop you or take it away from you. After the population of Iran was converted to Islam, our ancestors have proved, that WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA IN THEIR HEART THEY CAN STILL SURVIVE ON THE SOIL OF IRAN AND INDIA AND ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. AND YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT WE ALL HAVE SURVIVED TILL TODAY. So please do not be discouraged by the corrupt religious and community leaders. Do not leave or change your Faith. DO NOT RUN AWAY. That is the biggest weakness you all are showing. That’s why they are succeeding in closing the doors of the Atash Behrams and Agyaris for people who do not follow their dictates. WITH FAITH IN PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT AGAINST FALSE TEACHERS AND LEADERS UNTILL YOU SUCCEED IN CHANGING THE FALSE LAWS INTO RIGHT AND MAKE THEM OPEN THE GATES OF ATASH BEHRAMS AND AGYARIS FOR THE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHET ZARATHUSHTRA AND WORHIPERS OF PAK DADAR AHURA MAZDA. First study and understand the religion yourself properly, specially the Gathas of Asho Spitma Zarathushtra, our Holy Righteous Prophet who said “BEWARE OF THE FALSE TEACHERS.” Study your own history and then FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT.
ZARATHOSHTIS, BE BOLD AND STRONG AND NEVER GIVE UP.
Come on you parsis do you think our blood is better than none parsi?
|Do you think all parsis are genetically pure. never mixed wake up and smell coffee my co religionist.
Most Fire Temples are Public Charity Trust and do not belong exclusively to persons of Dhobhi Talav Deoband. In any case, how can any one prevent a Parsee female entering a Fire Temple even if others inc Priests know that she has married a non Parsee? Try this tactic of preventing a interfaith married Parsee female from entering a fire temple in Mumbai. It is a challenge.
Most Fire Temples belong to CXharity Trusts and not to a coterie of persons close to Dhobhi Talao Deoband. I would like to see if any one can prevent a sudreh kusti wearing lady married with a person of another faith entering a Bombay based Fire Temples because I have seen presiding Mobeds doing just nothing when such females come to worship and the concerned Mobed being aware of the marital status of the lady concerned.
Come on you parsis do you think our blood is better than none parsi?
|Do you think all parsis are genetically pure. never mixed wake up and smell coffee my co religionist.
Come on you parsis do you think our blood is better than none parsi?
|Do you think all parsis are genetically pure. never mixed wake up and smell coffee my co religionist.
Most Fire Temples belong to CXharity Trusts and not to a coterie of persons close to Dhobhi Talao Deoband. I would like to see if any one can prevent a sudreh kusti wearing lady married with a person of another faith entering a Bombay based Fire Temples because I have seen presiding Mobeds doing just nothing when such females come to worship and the concerned Mobed being aware of the marital status of the lady concerned.
Most Fire Temples belong to CXharity Trusts and not to a coterie of persons close to Dhobhi Talao Deoband. I would like to see if any one can prevent a sudreh kusti wearing lady married with a person of another faith entering a Bombay based Fire Temples because I have seen presiding Mobeds doing just nothing when such females come to worship and the concerned Mobed being aware of the marital status of the lady concerned.
@ Bomi..uve got it all wrong..it was never about superiority or inferiority…or do u think the guys who made the agiaries, atash behrams and laid down the rules were racist….funny if you think so…yet if you feel those who follow the makers of agiaries and atashbehram and their rules are racist then you are also blaming the guys who put in the rules….
Do you mean to say that just because no non dogri or himachali can buy land in Himachal pradesh , or non ladhaki in Ladhak or no non J.K indegenoius could buy land in J.NK , they are claiming superiroty, or because Japan does not granrt citizenship to anyone else…they claim being superior..I think you should start by understanding demographical change especially to smaller population..in any case your statement just portrayes glaringly the misconceptions shared by many who without the knowledge of the whys are willing for their personal agenda put the survival of a community at stake..
Also I am wondering if you will now support Goolrukh whi by ther way has also changed her name to a hindu one….if she thinks its morally right to change Hindu laws of her husbands regarding consecrated hindu temples especially the ones at orissa….
Ofcourse the ones who portray themselves as tolerant are not even tolerant towards the makers of institutuions they want to make use of and that too free….
@ Bomi..uve got it all wrong..it was never about superiority or inferiority…or do u think the guys who made the agiaries, atash behrams and laid down the rules were racist….funny if you think so…yet if you feel those who follow the makers of agiaries and atashbehram and their rules are racist then you are also blaming the guys who put in the rules….
Do you mean to say that just because no non dogri or himachali can buy land in Himachal pradesh , or non ladhaki in Ladhak or no non J.K indegenoius could buy land in J.NK , they are claiming superiroty, or because Japan does not granrt citizenship to anyone else…they claim being superior..I think you should start by understanding demographical change especially to smaller population..in any case your statement just portrayes glaringly the misconceptions shared by many who without the knowledge of the whys are willing for their personal agenda put the survival of a community at stake..
Also I am wondering if you will now support Goolrukh whi by ther way has also changed her name to a hindu one….if she thinks its morally right to change Hindu laws of her husbands regarding consecrated hindu temples especially the ones at orissa….
Ofcourse the ones who portray themselves as tolerant are not even tolerant towards the makers of institutuions they want to make use of and that too free….
@ Bomi..uve got it all wrong..it was never about superiority or inferiority…or do u think the guys who made the agiaries, atash behrams and laid down the rules were racist….funny if you think so…yet if you feel those who follow the makers of agiaries and atashbehram and their rules are racist then you are also blaming the guys who put in the rules….
Do you mean to say that just because no non dogri or himachali can buy land in Himachal pradesh , or non ladhaki in Ladhak or no non J.K indegenoius could buy land in J.NK , they are claiming superiroty, or because Japan does not granrt citizenship to anyone else…they claim being superior..I think you should start by understanding demographical change especially to smaller population..in any case your statement just portrayes glaringly the misconceptions shared by many who without the knowledge of the whys are willing for their personal agenda put the survival of a community at stake..
Also I am wondering if you will now support Goolrukh whi by ther way has also changed her name to a hindu one….if she thinks its morally right to change Hindu laws of her husbands regarding consecrated hindu temples especially the ones at orissa….
Ofcourse the ones who portray themselves as tolerant are not even tolerant towards the makers of institutuions they want to make use of and that too free….
Rustom,
Frankly and honestly disclose how many inter married Parsee females known to you,have you stopped from entering a Fire Temple in Mumbai?
I have not understood you statement ‘make use of and that too free’ Do you mean to say that Fire Temples should collect entry fee?
Rustom,
Frankly and honestly disclose how many inter married Parsee females known to you,have you stopped from entering a Fire Temple in Mumbai?
I have not understood you statement ‘make use of and that too free’ Do you mean to say that Fire Temples should collect entry fee?
Rustom,
Frankly and honestly disclose how many inter married Parsee females known to you,have you stopped from entering a Fire Temple in Mumbai?
I have not understood you statement ‘make use of and that too free’ Do you mean to say that Fire Temples should collect entry fee?
How come their has been no follow up to this article as the last line states that the hearing was scheduled for August 04,2011, and now we are in November.
How come their has been no follow up to this article as the last line states that the hearing was scheduled for August 04,2011, and now we are in November.
How come their has been no follow up to this article as the last line states that the hearing was scheduled for August 04,2011, and now we are in November.
What is the latest position in the court case ??? BPP should clarify to the community.
What is the latest position in the court case ??? BPP should clarify to the community.
She lost the case. HC ruled against her.
So all those who are celebrating this pyrrhic victory should know that the days are numbered. For God and Religion doesn’t matter to you. Your ulterior motive has no logical climax. It’s going to fail miserably. In fact its already a lost cause. The numbers will go down. They WILL. You are to blame because you don’t understand concept of community and you don’t know how to keep the heard together. Your facad of being the most important, successful and close knit community is a sham and eventual collapse is emminent, judging by how you treat your own people.
You’ve managed to lose my respect in only a few months. I wonder how you sleep at night.
She lost the case. HC ruled against her.
So all those who are celebrating this pyrrhic victory should know that the days are numbered. For God and Religion doesn’t matter to you. Your ulterior motive has no logical climax. It’s going to fail miserably. In fact its already a lost cause. The numbers will go down. They WILL. You are to blame because you don’t understand concept of community and you don’t know how to keep the heard together. Your facad of being the most important, successful and close knit community is a sham and eventual collapse is emminent, judging by how you treat your own people.
You’ve managed to lose my respect in only a few months. I wonder how you sleep at night.
She lost the case. HC ruled against her.
So all those who are celebrating this pyrrhic victory should know that the days are numbered. For God and Religion doesn’t matter to you. Your ulterior motive has no logical climax. It’s going to fail miserably. In fact its already a lost cause. The numbers will go down. They WILL. You are to blame because you don’t understand concept of community and you don’t know how to keep the heard together. Your facad of being the most important, successful and close knit community is a sham and eventual collapse is emminent, judging by how you treat your own people.
You’ve managed to lose my respect in only a few months. I wonder how you sleep at night.
kapai gaya ke nai tamlokna naako?
All those who rise against the Parsis and Parsipanu will loose. We sleep well inspite of likes of you cause we have faith in our traditions and in the constitution of INdia. Jai Hind !!!!
Rustom, kindly dont advertise your ignorance by drawing similarities of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh with Parsees. Get your GK in order first before blurting(rather typing)as if you’ve got a brainfart. Article 370 came into force denying purchase of land as the region is disputed and a ceasefire is in effect till the dispute is resolved as per UN resolutions. Himachal Pradesh is linked to this strategically important area via the Rohtang la pass that provides an alternative axis to Leh. The Dogra population of J&K,Himachal and Punjab are not “minorities”. They are in millions . Ladakh ,unlike what ignorants like u think also consists of various ethnicities , the main being Shia Muslim Baltistanis of western Ladakh and Tibetan stock Buddhists of Eastern ladakh. ALL these communities provide the backbone of manpower for the defence of our frontiers.Let me assure you they have no worries of “demographic change” ,as you put it. And Rustom,since you are so averse to Hindus in Hindustan,why dont you pack your bags and vanish. Yes, you retards are racist with a false sense of superiority which is tolerated because this happens to be a benign welcoming nation with a lot of tolerance.Lets see you deny entry to muslims in Iran in any Fire Temple.They’ll thrash the living daylights out of you and your kind.
kapai gaya ke nai tamlokna naako?
Rustom, kindly dont advertise your ignorance by drawing similarities of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh with Parsees. Get your GK in order first before blurting(rather typing)as if you’ve got a brainfart. Article 370 came into force denying purchase of land as the region is disputed and a ceasefire is in effect till the dispute is resolved as per UN resolutions. Himachal Pradesh is linked to this strategically important area via the Rohtang la pass that provides an alternative axis to Leh. The Dogra population of J&K,Himachal and Punjab are not “minorities”. They are in millions . Ladakh ,unlike what ignorants like u think also consists of various ethnicities , the main being Shia Muslim Baltistanis of western Ladakh and Tibetan stock Buddhists of Eastern ladakh. ALL these communities provide the backbone of manpower for the defence of our frontiers.Let me assure you they have no worries of “demographic change” ,as you put it. And Rustom,since you are so averse to Hindus in Hindustan,why dont you pack your bags and vanish. Yes, you retards are racist with a false sense of superiority which is tolerated because this happens to be a benign welcoming nation with a lot of tolerance.Lets see you deny entry to muslims in Iran in any Fire Temple.They’ll thrash the living daylights out of you and your kind.
Rustom, kindly dont advertise your ignorance by drawing similarities of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh with Parsees. Get your GK in order first before blurting(rather typing)as if you’ve got a brainfart. Article 370 came into force denying purchase of land as the region is disputed and a ceasefire is in effect till the dispute is resolved as per UN resolutions. Himachal Pradesh is linked to this strategically important area via the Rohtang la pass that provides an alternative axis to Leh. The Dogra population of J&K,Himachal and Punjab are not “minorities”. They are in millions . Ladakh ,unlike what ignorants like u think also consists of various ethnicities , the main being Shia Muslim Baltistanis of western Ladakh and Tibetan stock Buddhists of Eastern ladakh. ALL these communities provide the backbone of manpower for the defence of our frontiers.Let me assure you they have no worries of “demographic change” ,as you put it. And Rustom,since you are so averse to Hindus in Hindustan,why dont you pack your bags and vanish. Yes, you retards are racist with a false sense of superiority which is tolerated because this happens to be a benign welcoming nation with a lot of tolerance.Lets see you deny entry to muslims in Iran in any Fire Temple.They’ll thrash the living daylights out of you and your kind.
saalo Phiroze gadheda jevu vaat kareche.
saalo Phiroze gadheda jevu vaat kareche.
saalo Phiroze gadheda jevu vaat kareche.
Sarosh, please do not use offensive language against donkeys and insult them by comparing them with a nut loose bawa just because the four legged hard working creature cannot file libel.
Sarosh, please do not use offensive language against donkeys and insult them by comparing them with a nut loose bawa just because the four legged hard working creature cannot file libel.
Sarosh, please do not use offensive language against donkeys and insult them by comparing them with a nut loose bawa just because the four legged hard working creature cannot file libel.
Let’s be very clear.
Loose: Not tight; not closely constrained, constricted or constricting.
Lose : Fail to keep or to maintain; cease to have, either physically or in an abstract senseYes you all do sleep. I don’t. The reason is very simple. I live among people who have increased blind faith and the decreased grasp on logic. I care for people rather than a bunch of scripture and a non existent entity because humanity trumps dogma.I can be opposed but it’ll not change the fate. It’ll not stop from raising my voice against the atrocities committed in the name of god and religion. I’ll always be against those who gain nothing but destroy more by being a fanatic rather than a friend. Let’s be very frank, I don’t give a flying rat’s ass to any religion or god, if all they can do is divide people and kill the love. So you sleep well sir for you haven’t found religion yet.
Let’s be very clear.
Loose: Not tight; not closely constrained, constricted or constricting.
Lose : Fail to keep or to maintain; cease to have, either physically or in an abstract senseYes you all do sleep. I don’t. The reason is very simple. I live among people who have increased blind faith and the decreased grasp on logic. I care for people rather than a bunch of scripture and a non existent entity because humanity trumps dogma.I can be opposed but it’ll not change the fate. It’ll not stop from raising my voice against the atrocities committed in the name of god and religion. I’ll always be against those who gain nothing but destroy more by being a fanatic rather than a friend. Let’s be very frank, I don’t give a flying rat’s ass to any religion or god, if all they can do is divide people and kill the love. So you sleep well sir for you haven’t found religion yet.
Let’s be very clear.
Loose: Not tight; not closely constrained, constricted or constricting.
Lose : Fail to keep or to maintain; cease to have, either physically or in an abstract senseYes you all do sleep. I don’t. The reason is very simple. I live among people who have increased blind faith and the decreased grasp on logic. I care for people rather than a bunch of scripture and a non existent entity because humanity trumps dogma.I can be opposed but it’ll not change the fate. It’ll not stop from raising my voice against the atrocities committed in the name of god and religion. I’ll always be against those who gain nothing but destroy more by being a fanatic rather than a friend. Let’s be very frank, I don’t give a flying rat’s ass to any religion or god, if all they can do is divide people and kill the love. So you sleep well sir for you haven’t found religion yet.
And it will not stop me from raising my voice against anti-Parsis either. BTW thanks for the lesson in English. Suggest you leave the religion to us. We sleep well because ghost writers can’t bother us.
Learn the distinction between word LOOSE and LOSE. Improve your English vocabulary phiroze.
With persons like you “ Parsis and Parsipanu will loose’ Loose means ‘dhilla’
And it will not stop me from raising my voice against anti-Parsis either. BTW thanks for the lesson in English. Suggest you leave the religion to us. We sleep well because ghost writers can’t bother us.
And it will not stop me from raising my voice against anti-Parsis either. BTW thanks for the lesson in English. Suggest you leave the religion to us. We sleep well because ghost writers can’t bother us.
Learn the distinction between word LOOSE and LOSE. Improve your English vocabulary phiroze.
With persons like you ” Parsis and Parsipanu will loose’ Loose means ‘dhilla’
Learn the distinction between word LOOSE and LOSE. Improve your English vocabulary phiroze.
With persons like you ” Parsis and Parsipanu will loose’ Loose means ‘dhilla’
I am not anti Parsi. As I said religion doesn’t matter to me. I am anti crap.
And thank.. Ghost writer.. I like the term… Badass…!!
I am not anti Parsi. As I said religion doesn’t matter to me. I am anti crap.
And thank.. Ghost writer.. I like the term… Badass…!!
I am not anti Parsi. As I said religion doesn’t matter to me. I am anti crap.
And thank.. Ghost writer.. I like the term… Badass…!!
A parsi girl by birth/ blood looses her religion on marraige to non parsi and a non parsi girl marrying a parsi boy is accepted as Parsi. Sure, this is irrational
A parsi girl by birth/ blood looses her religion on marraige to non parsi and a non parsi girl marrying a parsi boy is accepted as Parsi. Sure, this is irrational
A parsi girl by birth/ blood looses her religion on marraige to non parsi and a non parsi girl marrying a parsi boy is accepted as Parsi. Sure, this is irrational
We do not want your respect. According to non-Parsis and reformist Zoroastrians respect means being a puppet to the wishes of other communities who pull the strings and make our people dance as per their whims and fancies. We have danced enough and others have taken advantage of us. If Zoroastrians need to survive they must become more closed community like the Bohri Muslims where inter-religious marriages by ladies are unknown and their families are socially boycotted if they encourage such marriages. Their men do not marry outside because there enough eligible ladies in their community. Bohri Muslims are an ideal minority community who have managed to maintain its principles, rules and traditions inspite of also being a very tiny minority and they have to face a lot of prejudices from other bigger communities. They are a thousand times richer than our community yet they do not show off or squander their wealth. Their survival and prosperity in a communally surcharged and prejudiced country is a great miracle. It is only because of their strong community sense and help to their correligious brethen.
Mr.Bakul Gandhi
First if as your name suggests you are a Hindu then you should try to cure the evils which ails your mamoth community.
1. Massive killing of female child due to which the male female ratios have deteroriated in this country.
2. Dowry deaths and unchecked dowry demand as even now a girl in Hinduism is considered to be a burden and curse.
3. Corruption which is definite fallout of Hindu Culture that is why this is the most corrupt country in the world. Anna Hazare and his team cannot make any dent because corruption is embedded in Hindu culture.
4. When a women marries as per Hindu traditions and does pheras she automatically becomes a Hindu. Same goes for a women who though born Hindu will become Muslim if she marries in a Masjid or undergoes nikah ceremony.
Please stop this misinformation campaign. If you have ever read history millions of Hindu girls had married Muslim rulers and their progeny have all become Muslims and not a single person became Hindu.
We do not want your respect. According to non-Parsis and reformist Zoroastrians respect means being a puppet to the wishes of other communities who pull the strings and make our people dance as per their whims and fancies. We have danced enough and others have taken advantage of us. If Zoroastrians need to survive they must become more closed community like the Bohri Muslims where inter-religious marriages by ladies are unknown and their families are socially boycotted if they encourage such marriages. Their men do not marry outside because there enough eligible ladies in their community. Bohri Muslims are an ideal minority community who have managed to maintain its principles, rules and traditions inspite of also being a very tiny minority and they have to face a lot of prejudices from other bigger communities. They are a thousand times richer than our community yet they do not show off or squander their wealth. Their survival and prosperity in a communally surcharged and prejudiced country is a great miracle. It is only because of their strong community sense and help to their correligious brethen.
We do not want your respect. According to non-Parsis and reformist Zoroastrians respect means being a puppet to the wishes of other communities who pull the strings and make our people dance as per their whims and fancies. We have danced enough and others have taken advantage of us. If Zoroastrians need to survive they must become more closed community like the Bohri Muslims where inter-religious marriages by ladies are unknown and their families are socially boycotted if they encourage such marriages. Their men do not marry outside because there enough eligible ladies in their community. Bohri Muslims are an ideal minority community who have managed to maintain its principles, rules and traditions inspite of also being a very tiny minority and they have to face a lot of prejudices from other bigger communities. They are a thousand times richer than our community yet they do not show off or squander their wealth. Their survival and prosperity in a communally surcharged and prejudiced country is a great miracle. It is only because of their strong community sense and help to their correligious brethen.
Mr.Bakul Gandhi
First if as your name suggests you are a Hindu then you should try to cure the evils which ails your mamoth community.
1. Massive killing of female child due to which the male female ratios have deteroriated in this country.
2. Dowry deaths and unchecked dowry demand as even now a girl in Hinduism is considered to be a burden and curse.
3. Corruption which is definite fallout of Hindu Culture that is why this is the most corrupt country in the world. Anna Hazare and his team cannot make any dent because corruption is embedded in Hindu culture.
4. When a women marries as per Hindu traditions and does pheras she automatically becomes a Hindu. Same goes for a women who though born Hindu will become Muslim if she marries in a Masjid or undergoes nikah ceremony.
Please stop this misinformation campaign. If you have ever read history millions of Hindu girls had married Muslim rulers and their progeny have all become Muslims and not a single person became Hindu.
Mr.Bakul Gandhi
First if as your name suggests you are a Hindu then you should try to cure the evils which ails your mamoth community.
1. Massive killing of female child due to which the male female ratios have deteroriated in this country.
2. Dowry deaths and unchecked dowry demand as even now a girl in Hinduism is considered to be a burden and curse.
3. Corruption which is definite fallout of Hindu Culture that is why this is the most corrupt country in the world. Anna Hazare and his team cannot make any dent because corruption is embedded in Hindu culture.
4. When a women marries as per Hindu traditions and does pheras she automatically becomes a Hindu. Same goes for a women who though born Hindu will become Muslim if she marries in a Masjid or undergoes nikah ceremony.
Please stop this misinformation campaign. If you have ever read history millions of Hindu girls had married Muslim rulers and their progeny have all become Muslims and not a single person became Hindu.
Yes, I fully agree with you – we have danced enough. We must have unity amongst community members to unite and fight together for our rights. whether it is housing, whether it is marriage, whether it is increasing community population or whether it is any general topic like vultures or sports or olympics. I agree bohri muslims have more unity amongst themselves. Unfortunately, the trustees of bpp whom we elected are HARDLY WORKING people. We will have to wait till october, 2015 but then, their children only who are half parsees will stand for elections. so again we will have lot of problems. No sensible, intelligent , honest parsee would like to become a trustee of Bpp because of various reasons. God bless the community.
Yes, I fully agree with you – we have danced enough. We must have unity amongst community members to unite and fight together for our rights. whether it is housing, whether it is marriage, whether it is increasing community population or whether it is any general topic like vultures or sports or olympics. I agree bohri muslims have more unity amongst themselves. Unfortunately, the trustees of bpp whom we elected are HARDLY WORKING people. We will have to wait till october, 2015 but then, their children only who are half parsees will stand for elections. so again we will have lot of problems. No sensible, intelligent , honest parsee would like to become a trustee of Bpp because of various reasons. God bless the community.
Yes, I fully agree with you – we have danced enough. We must have unity amongst community members to unite and fight together for our rights. whether it is housing, whether it is marriage, whether it is increasing community population or whether it is any general topic like vultures or sports or olympics. I agree bohri muslims have more unity amongst themselves. Unfortunately, the trustees of bpp whom we elected are HARDLY WORKING people. We will have to wait till october, 2015 but then, their children only who are half parsees will stand for elections. so again we will have lot of problems. No sensible, intelligent , honest parsee would like to become a trustee of Bpp because of various reasons. God bless the community.
Truth is Bitter…why don’t you respond maturely….Hindu temples can be visited by people across religions..same is not the case with Parsis……many Muslims have converted to Hindus…I can give you atleast 20 such names that i can recall…you worry abut your 60 thousand odd people..dwindling away..many Muslim women in the media & Bollywood have married Hindu guys..,,
Parsis were at the mercy of Hindu Kings of Gujarat..lol