World’s Biggest Aviary Built So World’s Oldest Religions Can Feed Corpses To Vultures

The biggest aviary in the world is set to be built in Mumbai so that followers of one of the world’s oldest religions can have their corpses fed to vultures after their deaths.

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The Zoroastrian faith has observed "sky burials" for centuries, but pollution in the city has recently led to a lack of wild birds, the religion’s governing body told The (London) Times on Wednesday.

Around 40,000 of India’s 70,000 Parsees reside in Mumbai and sky burials still take place at an average rate of two to three a day.

The new six-story aviary — bigger than a football field — would be built above the Towers of Silence, a sacred hilltop where Zoroastrians (Parsees) have been taken for sky burials since the 17th century.

Mehli Colah, the chief executive of the Bombay Parsee Panchayat (BPP), said, "By the 1990s there were hardly any vultures left. Now there are none. We still have smaller birds like kites and crows but they can only peck and cannot rip the flesh."

Solar panels were erected around the Towers of Silence to hasten decomposition, but this has been only partially successful, he said.

A decision on the aviary will be made once it has been made certain that the vultures could survive in captivity.

Khojeste Mistry, a BPP trustee said, "It would be a marvelous statement, both for conservation and ecology, and because we would also be being faithful to our theology."

The religion states that human corpses should not be allowed to pollute fire, water or earth — ruling out cremation or burial underground or at sea. However, some liberal Parsees believe that the practice is archaic and unhygienic and argue that the Towers of Silence should be abandoned.

Mistry said, "Let us traditionalists do what we want. For those who don’t like it, we say ‘put your money where your mouth is and build your own infrastructure’."

  • xyz

    Excellent idea. Kudos to Mr. Khojestee Mistree on his efforts of lifetime. May Lord Ahuramazda fulfill his wish of his lifetime soon. Congratulations.

  • xyz

    Excellent idea. Kudos to Mr. Khojestee Mistree on his efforts of lifetime. May Lord Ahuramazda fulfill his wish of his lifetime soon. Congratulations.

  • Byram. Sidhwa.

    What have B.P.P. Trustees done in this regard in  last 3 years after getting elected, that one has to still wait to make certain’ that the vultures could survive in captivity.’ Was Mistree and his traditionalist lobby sleeping during last three years that  they have woken up from slumber?

  • Byram. Sidhwa.

    What have B.P.P. Trustees done in this regard in  last 3 years after getting elected, that one has to still wait to make certain’ that the vultures could survive in captivity.’ Was Mistree and his traditionalist lobby sleeping during last three years that  they have woken up from slumber?

  • Siloo Kapadia

    “Mistry said, “Let us traditionalists do what we want. For those who don’t like it, we say ‘put your money where your mouth is and build your own infrastructure’.””
     
    What a lot of gora nu ca-ca!  We would love to build our own infrastructure but then again the so-called conservative mellah moojah clique have their claws on the all of the money!  I have said it before and I will say it again,  split the money into two and give half to the conservatives, the other half to the liberals, and that will be that.  However, it is this that scares the heck out of the conservatives as it means they will no longer have their say in every single aspect of Parsi life. As it is the BPP as it stands now is going the way of Qaddafi. 
     

  • Siloo Kapadia

    “Mistry said, “Let us traditionalists do what we want. For those who don’t like it, we say ‘put your money where your mouth is and build your own infrastructure’.””
     
    What a lot of gora nu ca-ca!  We would love to build our own infrastructure but then again the so-called conservative mellah moojah clique have their claws on the all of the money!  I have said it before and I will say it again,  split the money into two and give half to the conservatives, the other half to the liberals, and that will be that.  However, it is this that scares the heck out of the conservatives as it means they will no longer have their say in every single aspect of Parsi life. As it is the BPP as it stands now is going the way of Qaddafi. 
     

  • Rustom

    A classic example of Hu mata Hukhta and Huvarasthra…good thoughts, words and deeds not on social behavior but on its reality of good thoughts , words and deeds according to the philosophy.

     Hope this becomes a success. I am sure there will be many hurdles but the zoroastrian community continues to think on the same lines that enabled them to come up with this plan and this stage.There will be critics and die hard anti dokhmenishini segments , the art towards strengthening the systems will be in ignoring this segments whilst thriving and thirsting towards making it a success to renew zoroastrian systems and giving back to what we have taken for generations.The biggest advantage will be in this being a  setting example for other instances where Zoroastrian system may be at threat due to circumstances and from those within.Today’s modern science enables mankind to do the unthinkable. Modern management mantra is not to give up, from childhood the story of the spider making its web is told to us, this principle was put to test by our ancestors on many occasions, all were successful, now its time this generation also continues on the same lines instead of changing to ‘giving up’ just because a ‘ change’ is seen to be modern.

  • Rustom

    A classic example of Hu mata Hukhta and Huvarasthra…good thoughts, words and deeds not on social behavior but on its reality of good thoughts , words and deeds according to the philosophy.

     Hope this becomes a success. I am sure there will be many hurdles but the zoroastrian community continues to think on the same lines that enabled them to come up with this plan and this stage.There will be critics and die hard anti dokhmenishini segments , the art towards strengthening the systems will be in ignoring this segments whilst thriving and thirsting towards making it a success to renew zoroastrian systems and giving back to what we have taken for generations.The biggest advantage will be in this being a  setting example for other instances where Zoroastrian system may be at threat due to circumstances and from those within.Today’s modern science enables mankind to do the unthinkable. Modern management mantra is not to give up, from childhood the story of the spider making its web is told to us, this principle was put to test by our ancestors on many occasions, all were successful, now its time this generation also continues on the same lines instead of changing to ‘giving up’ just because a ‘ change’ is seen to be modern.

  • Contradhongi

    Likes of persons like Rustom having been hoping since last many years and they can continue to be sanguine for another five decades till the entire community is virtually wiped off. There are those who are simpletons enough to believe fib masters and there are others who had foreseen the intent of persons like K Mistree whose  tenet is to fool everybody for all times. Thats the plain truth which  some can never reconcile till eternity.

  • Contradhongi

    Likes of persons like Rustom having been hoping since last many years and they can continue to be sanguine for another five decades till the entire community is virtually wiped off. There are those who are simpletons enough to believe fib masters and there are others who had foreseen the intent of persons like K Mistree whose  tenet is to fool everybody for all times. Thats the plain truth which  some can never reconcile till eternity.

  • Contradhongi

    Siloomai.,
     In this era there is no dearth of those whose survival depends on hoodwinking the gullible. Ultimately, these hoodwinkers will resort to blaming nature when the day dreams they churn out for simple folks do not bear fruition.
     That is a universal characteristic of men of straw who have by fluke, assumed a high office to manage vast properties.

  • Contradhongi

    Siloomai.,
     In this era there is no dearth of those whose survival depends on hoodwinking the gullible. Ultimately, these hoodwinkers will resort to blaming nature when the day dreams they churn out for simple folks do not bear fruition.
     That is a universal characteristic of men of straw who have by fluke, assumed a high office to manage vast properties.

  • Rustom

    On apprehensions that ‘ could Vultures survive in captivity’—-

    In
    contrast to the disheartening results from this research, the RSPB is happy to report the most successful year yet at the Indian
    captive breeding centres as the number of fledged chicks is up almost double on
    last year. Eighteen vulture chicks have been successfully reared in
    captivity in 2011 – the largest annual total to date.

     

    Three captive breeding centres have
    been built so far in India, where 271 vultures are housed in total and
    successful breeding of all three species has now occurred. They are in Haryana, West Bengal
    and in Assam. Two  centres are operational in Nepal and Pakistan, and five Indian zoos are also
    developing captive breeding facilities with support of the Central Zoo
    Authority.

     

    ?Another first for the captive breeding
    centre this year is a number of ‘double clutches’, meaning some pairs
    produced a second egg and chick, as the first was removed.Report from ‘Bird Watch’ titled ‘ Indian Vultures bounce back under threat. Posted sept 06 2011………………………………………………….

    Another
    report in Globe Post  Says that India
    opened a restaurant for vultures in Maharashtra. The report is by Hanna Inger
    Win-Globe Post . Published Jan 3 2011

     ……………………………………………………………………………..Another report ‘ They are often found close to human communities or farms, because human activities such as livestock rearing, fishing, and garbage dumps provide them with a steady source of food. The presence of roads also attracts vultures due to the availability of road kill;In areas of human settlements, vultures are often seen roosting on water towers, communication towers, and rooftops.’From  http://www.loudounwildlife.org/PDF_Files/Vulture_fact_sheet.pdf…………………………………………………………………………Hope the ‘anti Khojeste,’ or and ‘anti dakhma’ brigade or the brigade who not only does not want to contribute towards their own preferences but want a share of monies meant for strengthening Zoroastrian systems and Zoroastrianism for their personal tastes.. do not hijack this project all together or individually and ends a system and thus inches us closer towards end of Zoroastrian systems and Zoroastrianism just to save their face and a mighty ego…

  • Rustom

    On apprehensions that ‘ could Vultures survive in captivity’—-

    In
    contrast to the disheartening results from this research, the RSPB is happy to report the most successful year yet at the Indian
    captive breeding centres as the number of fledged chicks is up almost double on
    last year. Eighteen vulture chicks have been successfully reared in
    captivity in 2011 – the largest annual total to date.

     

    Three captive breeding centres have
    been built so far in India, where 271 vultures are housed in total and
    successful breeding of all three species has now occurred. They are in Haryana, West Bengal
    and in Assam. Two  centres are operational in Nepal and Pakistan, and five Indian zoos are also
    developing captive breeding facilities with support of the Central Zoo
    Authority.

     

    
Another first for the captive breeding
    centre this year is a number of ‘double clutches’, meaning some pairs
    produced a second egg and chick, as the first was removed.Report from ‘Bird Watch’ titled ‘ Indian Vultures bounce back under threat. Posted sept 06 2011………………………………………………….

    Another
    report in Globe Post  Says that India
    opened a restaurant for vultures in Maharashtra. The report is by Hanna Inger
    Win-Globe Post . Published Jan 3 2011

     ……………………………………………………………………………..Another report ‘ They are often found close to human communities or farms, because human activities such as livestock rearing, fishing, and garbage dumps provide them with a steady source of food. The presence of roads also attracts vultures due to the availability of road kill;In areas of human settlements, vultures are often seen roosting on water towers, communication towers, and rooftops.’From  http://www.loudounwildlife.org/PDF_Files/Vulture_fact_sheet.pdf…………………………………………………………………………Hope the ‘anti Khojeste,’ or and ‘anti dakhma’ brigade or the brigade who not only does not want to contribute towards their own preferences but want a share of monies meant for strengthening Zoroastrian systems and Zoroastrianism for their personal tastes.. do not hijack this project all together or individually and ends a system and thus inches us closer towards end of Zoroastrian systems and Zoroastrianism just to save their face and a mighty ego…

  • RATHESTAR.

    Let Mistree reply if the infrastructure of Moos at Sanjan was funded by traditionalists? If not, why was nuisance created there. Mistree owes a reply.

  • RATHESTAR.

    Let Mistree reply if the infrastructure of Moos at Sanjan was funded by traditionalists? If not, why was nuisance created there. Mistree owes a reply.

  • RATHESTAR.

    The monies left behind as Trust Funds by our ancestors did not prescribe that the same should be earmarked for an obstinate coterie called WAPIZ. Their so called majority was recently exposed during the BP.P Trustee election. If they are so traditin minded, why do they not insist on Parsee females using only Parsee Lying in Home and staying there for forty days which too was a part of “TRADITION” In breach thereof, they should issue a fatwa ostracizing such women and not allowing their children in Parsee Fold. If one can bend ‘traditions’ for births why such lunatic obsession for insistence on a defunct method?
    If Mistree thinks that such an hare brained concept is going tgo improve the prospects of WAPIZ in future B.P.P. elections, then he better have second thoughts.Practicality  and adaptability are essential for survival and if the project of aviary boomerangs then consequences for WAPIZ can well be imagines as happened in case of banning of two priests. As they say, whom the Gods seek to destroy, they first make blunders. Though I believe that these statements of Mistree are an eyewash to win back the genuine orthodox constituency and later Mistree and his chamchas will blame on uncertaint possibility of survival of the birds.

  • RATHESTAR.

    The monies left behind as Trust Funds by our ancestors did not prescribe that the same should be earmarked for an obstinate coterie called WAPIZ. Their so called majority was recently exposed during the BP.P Trustee election. If they are so traditin minded, why do they not insist on Parsee females using only Parsee Lying in Home and staying there for forty days which too was a part of “TRADITION” In breach thereof, they should issue a fatwa ostracizing such women and not allowing their children in Parsee Fold. If one can bend ‘traditions’ for births why such lunatic obsession for insistence on a defunct method?
    If Mistree thinks that such an hare brained concept is going tgo improve the prospects of WAPIZ in future B.P.P. elections, then he better have second thoughts.Practicality  and adaptability are essential for survival and if the project of aviary boomerangs then consequences for WAPIZ can well be imagines as happened in case of banning of two priests. As they say, whom the Gods seek to destroy, they first make blunders. Though I believe that these statements of Mistree are an eyewash to win back the genuine orthodox constituency and later Mistree and his chamchas will blame on uncertaint possibility of survival of the birds.

  • Phiroz.

    It is time for all level headed Parsees to organize, engage some eminent legal minds and sue the Trustees for  deliberate and willful loss of finance from a Charity Trust to satiate their individual ego. Wasting Charity funds is a criminal offence.

  • Barak Aga

    Khojeste Mistree and his fake orthodox friends are good at doing charity with other people’s money. Through their utterances and conduct Mistry and his WAPIZ companions would lead us to think that all the schools, colleges, hospitals and community institutions were built by them or their forefathers. Clause 3(d) of the WAPIZ constitution, “Objects of the Society”, states, “To establish, ….. places of worship, Towers of Silence, institutions, centres, hospitals,
    clinics, homes, schools, colleges, premises for residence, rest houses,
    sanatoriums, dharamshallas……” Mistree advises others to put their money where their mouth is. Why doesn’t he lead by example. Can Mistry and his friends tell us whether they have complied with their WAPIZ constitution? How many schools, colleges, residential buildings for Parsis have Mistry and his friends built? Margaret Thatcher said, “Socialism is good till you don’t run out of someone else’s money”.

  • Phiroz.

    How about shooting a film DANCE OF THE VULTURES: Director Mistree,
     Producer:WAPIZ.Financier:Trust Funds left by ancestors for upliftment of the downtrodden.

  • Phiroz.

    How about shooting a film DANCE OF THE VULTURES: Director Mistree,
     Producer:WAPIZ.Financier:Trust Funds left by ancestors for upliftment of the downtrodden.

  • xyz

    It is useless going to court against bpp trustees. As it is all of them are useless. They have too many court cases already at hand. One more will not make any difference to them. Just throw them out. Order re-elections again and elect new set of trustees. This is one and only alternative left for parsee community.

  • xyz

    It is useless going to court against bpp trustees. As it is all of them are useless. They have too many court cases already at hand. One more will not make any difference to them. Just throw them out. Order re-elections again and elect new set of trustees. This is one and only alternative left for parsee community.

  • xyz

    Wapiz is totally useless body for parsee community. They just start more quarrels  amongst community members. Best thing is AVOID them and IGNORE them. The only way out is Not to Elect any trustees in future from Wapiz.

  • xyz

    Wapiz is totally useless body for parsee community. They just start more quarrels  amongst community members. Best thing is AVOID them and IGNORE them. The only way out is Not to Elect any trustees in future from Wapiz.

  • gb

    I fully agree with xyz. Just throw them out immediately.

  • gb

    I fully agree with xyz. Just throw them out immediately.

  • Ratan Unwalla

    KHOJESTE MISTREE TRIES TO HARDSELL HIS PIPE-DREAM FANTASY OF AVIARY AT DOONGERWADI.
    The first meeting of the Doongerwadi Advisory Committee (DAC) was held at Doongerwadi on Sunday, 25th September. Dasturji Khurshed Dastoor, High Priest of Udvada, reportedly inquired as to the number of pavis, how long the bodies were kept on the pavis & other information which the Bombay Parsi Punchayet (BPP) administration will collect & provide to him….
     
    WHEN MISTREE MOOTED HIS PET PROJECT, THE CREATION OF AN AVIARY TO BREED VULTURES AT DOONGERWADI, ONE OF THE PRIESTS REPORTEDLY TOLD HIM “DON’T WASTE OUR TIME”. As long as Parsis consume the drug diclofenac their corpses cannot be fed to the vultures as the pain killer is a deadly poison for the scavengers.
    (Parsiana – Oct. 7, 2011)

  • Ratan Unwalla

    KHOJESTE MISTREE TRIES TO HARDSELL HIS PIPE-DREAM FANTASY OF AVIARY AT DOONGERWADI.
    The first meeting of the Doongerwadi Advisory Committee (DAC) was held at Doongerwadi on Sunday, 25th September. Dasturji Khurshed Dastoor, High Priest of Udvada, reportedly inquired as to the number of pavis, how long the bodies were kept on the pavis & other information which the Bombay Parsi Punchayet (BPP) administration will collect & provide to him….
     
    WHEN MISTREE MOOTED HIS PET PROJECT, THE CREATION OF AN AVIARY TO BREED VULTURES AT DOONGERWADI, ONE OF THE PRIESTS REPORTEDLY TOLD HIM “DON’T WASTE OUR TIME”. As long as Parsis consume the drug diclofenac their corpses cannot be fed to the vultures as the pain killer is a deadly poison for the scavengers.
    (Parsiana – Oct. 7, 2011)

  • Phiroze

    Ha Ha Ha, and after just throwing them out will any of you contest the elections?

  • Phiroze

    Ha Ha Ha, and after just throwing them out will any of you contest the elections?

  • P_j_dubash

    Our friend Phiroze seems to believe in fatalism, i.e. endure mediocre if you cannot cure. 
    Phiroze, please introspect, why good persons of upright character, good contacts etc are not willing to offer themselves as Trustees. If you do not know the reasons, then refer to past pages of WAPIZ page during elections and you will understand why.

  • P_j_dubash

    Our friend Phiroze seems to believe in fatalism, i.e. endure mediocre if you cannot cure. 
    Phiroze, please introspect, why good persons of upright character, good contacts etc are not willing to offer themselves as Trustees. If you do not know the reasons, then refer to past pages of WAPIZ page during elections and you will understand why.

  • gb

    you stand for elections. i promise to vote for you if you are more capable and honest than the present 7 trustees together. that’s a prmise. 

  • gb

    you stand for elections. i promise to vote for you if you are more capable and honest than the present 7 trustees together. that’s a prmise. 

  • Rustom

    Contra dhongis response is exactly the same as Dhun Barias when I spoke to her and asked if she was willing to help in strengthening the Zoroastrian system…Her last refuge in stalling progress towards strengthening the system and trying to impress those in that meetings was that maybe the system will take so much time to strengthen that all Zoroastrians will die out by then….that was 6 -7 years ago…

    Continious progress and working towards the survival and thus existence of Zoroastrian systems will take perhaps Years and decades…, yet Contradhongi it is peanuts when necessary to make sure the survival and existence of Zoroastrianism.

    Look at history itself….if it pleases you, Zoroastrian History in many phases.. The Zoroastrian Achmenid Empire wasnt built in a day nor the Efforts of the Sasanians to outdo the massacres and destruction of Zoroastrian books and facilities by Alexander….The Sasanians had to protect Zoroastrianism from the onslaught of the Byzantines who wanted to Christianise Persia over 700 years….The Zoroastrians that took refuge in Sanjan ( Named after Zanjan , one of the places they left) and built a new Sari…Nav-sari…..( Sari being another such place in Iran)…and Zoroastrian fire temples and dakhmas over centuries of hard work….
     In contrast Contradhongi…ending zoroastrian systems would  see us surviving but not as Zoroastrians as the systems that enable us to be Zoroastrians would vanish due to logic that goes in tune  with ‘dhongi giri’….yet against the wisdom of the entire world that works towards saving the vultures..Infact in w. Africa many scientist were recently puzzled as they saw the recurrence of a type of Vulture that was not seen before …..Persepolis also took years to build…..and it took alexander more than 3 attempts to burn it down…..
     If it pleases you, do please read the success in recent times over a decade and less of vulture conservation and that of vultures living side by side of human settlement…

    Yet as I said earlier; There will be critics and die hard Anti Dokhmenishini segments , be it for their Egos now since vulture conservations are succeeding and also Dakhmenishini is still the preferred mode amongst zoroastrian as it is also scientific…and less polluting than cremation or burial…and the art towards strengthening the systems will be in ignoring this segments whilst thriving and thirsting towards making it a success to renew zoroastrian systems and giving back to what we have taken for generations..

    BTW to make one of the Atash Behram in Mumbai, it took 12 years……but many generations then are still benefiting from it….

  • Rustom

    Contra dhongis response is exactly the same as Dhun Barias when I spoke to her and asked if she was willing to help in strengthening the Zoroastrian system…Her last refuge in stalling progress towards strengthening the system and trying to impress those in that meetings was that maybe the system will take so much time to strengthen that all Zoroastrians will die out by then….that was 6 -7 years ago…

    Continious progress and working towards the survival and thus existence of Zoroastrian systems will take perhaps Years and decades…, yet Contradhongi it is peanuts when necessary to make sure the survival and existence of Zoroastrianism.

    Look at history itself….if it pleases you, Zoroastrian History in many phases.. The Zoroastrian Achmenid Empire wasnt built in a day nor the Efforts of the Sasanians to outdo the massacres and destruction of Zoroastrian books and facilities by Alexander….The Sasanians had to protect Zoroastrianism from the onslaught of the Byzantines who wanted to Christianise Persia over 700 years….The Zoroastrians that took refuge in Sanjan ( Named after Zanjan , one of the places they left) and built a new Sari…Nav-sari…..( Sari being another such place in Iran)…and Zoroastrian fire temples and dakhmas over centuries of hard work….
     In contrast Contradhongi…ending zoroastrian systems would  see us surviving but not as Zoroastrians as the systems that enable us to be Zoroastrians would vanish due to logic that goes in tune  with ‘dhongi giri’….yet against the wisdom of the entire world that works towards saving the vultures..Infact in w. Africa many scientist were recently puzzled as they saw the recurrence of a type of Vulture that was not seen before …..Persepolis also took years to build…..and it took alexander more than 3 attempts to burn it down…..
     If it pleases you, do please read the success in recent times over a decade and less of vulture conservation and that of vultures living side by side of human settlement…

    Yet as I said earlier; There will be critics and die hard Anti Dokhmenishini segments , be it for their Egos now since vulture conservations are succeeding and also Dakhmenishini is still the preferred mode amongst zoroastrian as it is also scientific…and less polluting than cremation or burial…and the art towards strengthening the systems will be in ignoring this segments whilst thriving and thirsting towards making it a success to renew zoroastrian systems and giving back to what we have taken for generations..

    BTW to make one of the Atash Behram in Mumbai, it took 12 years……but many generations then are still benefiting from it….

  • Contradhongi

    Rustom cannot give a straight reply and so he will confuse history, sentiments etc for religious practices. It is an undeniable fact that since last one decade Khojeste Mistree has been harping on aviary.One could understand that he was not in a position to do much unless he became a  B.P.P.Trustee though even before becoming a Trustee he was on Doongerwadi Committee. NOW AFTER 2008 that he has become a Trustee what is the PROGRESS  with regarding Aviary? Marketing ‘dreams’ to those who are sentimental is one thing but doing something tangible as a BPP Trustee is another and Mistree has been a big zero. Perhaps if he opts for another  innings as Trustee he will be marketing the same ‘dream’. Thats hard fact that Rustom and his handful of simple minded cannot escape. I have read Rustom’s post on identrical lines in 2008, 2009, 2010 and now in 2011. In all likelihood he will talk the same ‘lawara’ in 2014. I do not wish to rub further.
    Rustom and his ilk need to remember that those who clamour for an effective, efficient system of quick disposal are no less religious minded and in many cases more devoted to the faith  unlike those who do not keep their promise during election of declaring their assets, if elected. Of course, no body is suggesting Cremation at the Towers. What is being sought is an additional alternative and supplementary system like Promession. 
    Additionally those who desire to opt for the defunct system may be allowed to pursue that but Rustom and his supporters, if any should not step on the toes of others and in the name of tradition go on hoodwinking the entire community 
    decades after decades. TILL SUCH TIME, KHOJESTE /RUSTOM TYPES SHOW THEIR “ACHIEVEMENT”, THEY WILL BE DUBBED AS DHONGEES BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY NOW REFUSES THEIR EMOTIONAL “ATYACHAR” ANY FURTHER.
    Ushta Te.

  • Contradhongi

    Rustom cannot give a straight reply and so he will confuse history, sentiments etc for religious practices. It is an undeniable fact that since last one decade Khojeste Mistree has been harping on aviary.One could understand that he was not in a position to do much unless he became a  B.P.P.Trustee though even before becoming a Trustee he was on Doongerwadi Committee. NOW AFTER 2008 that he has become a Trustee what is the PROGRESS  with regarding Aviary? Marketing ‘dreams’ to those who are sentimental is one thing but doing something tangible as a BPP Trustee is another and Mistree has been a big zero. Perhaps if he opts for another  innings as Trustee he will be marketing the same ‘dream’. Thats hard fact that Rustom and his handful of simple minded cannot escape. I have read Rustom’s post on identrical lines in 2008, 2009, 2010 and now in 2011. In all likelihood he will talk the same ‘lawara’ in 2014. I do not wish to rub further.
    Rustom and his ilk need to remember that those who clamour for an effective, efficient system of quick disposal are no less religious minded and in many cases more devoted to the faith  unlike those who do not keep their promise during election of declaring their assets, if elected. Of course, no body is suggesting Cremation at the Towers. What is being sought is an additional alternative and supplementary system like Promession. 
    Additionally those who desire to opt for the defunct system may be allowed to pursue that but Rustom and his supporters, if any should not step on the toes of others and in the name of tradition go on hoodwinking the entire community 
    decades after decades. TILL SUCH TIME, KHOJESTE /RUSTOM TYPES SHOW THEIR “ACHIEVEMENT”, THEY WILL BE DUBBED AS DHONGEES BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY NOW REFUSES THEIR EMOTIONAL “ATYACHAR” ANY FURTHER.
    Ushta Te.

  • Lobo Joanna

    Hey…would like to get in touch to pursue more on this…can anyone help?

  • Lobo Joanna

    Hey…would like to get in touch to pursue more on this…can anyone help?

  • Dorab Unwalla

    Persons like Rustom assume that one can fool All persons for All the time. If the existing system, if can be called one, is working  well as Rustom and his impractical, bigots want us to believe then they need to answer:
    -Why Solar Cookers are required;
    – How such Solar Cookers will operate during four months of monsoon?
    -How many decades the Community will have to wait for ‘Strengthening’ of the system,
     How does Rustom expect a common Parsee to contribute to ‘strengthening because one can strengthen a weak item not a defunct item’ . When a sitting Trustee of B.P.P. with  vast resources viz  K.P.Mistry  has been unable to do anything during last three years as a Trustee, what can be expected from a middle class Parsee?
    The Ego issue raised by him is actually held more by persons on his side of thinking because of cussedness. 
    Rustom and his fellow thinkers talk of ecology  and assume that alternate system of disposal is confined to burial or crematorium. Why they cannot comprehend that chemical decomposition too is ecologically sound?
    Oft and on and since last five years we have heard this tall talk of Strengthening  the so called system but that has remained a talk only. Playing on words by saying that ‘system has weakened’ does not attend the issue.
    Lastly, to associate a system of disposal to Z’ism is basically trying to create a fear psychosis in the mind of the reader. Many Parsee Zoros opt for crematorium and the ‘sin ‘  for this is not on the shoulder of the deceased or on his /her relatives but on the cussed coterie who cannot think out of box beyond crematorium and burial. These bogus traditionalists are not capable of coming to term with realities. Many in the Community will felicitate Rustom and fellow thinkers like him if they can complete their mission of ‘strengthening’ by 2050 by which time Parsee population will be little more than half of present population. So much for his tall talk, which we have been reading since many years.

  • Dorab Unwalla

    Persons like Rustom assume that one can fool All persons for All the time. If the existing system, if can be called one, is working  well as Rustom and his impractical, bigots want us to believe then they need to answer:
    -Why Solar Cookers are required;
    – How such Solar Cookers will operate during four months of monsoon?
    -How many decades the Community will have to wait for ‘Strengthening’ of the system,
     How does Rustom expect a common Parsee to contribute to ‘strengthening because one can strengthen a weak item not a defunct item’ . When a sitting Trustee of B.P.P. with  vast resources viz  K.P.Mistry  has been unable to do anything during last three years as a Trustee, what can be expected from a middle class Parsee?
    The Ego issue raised by him is actually held more by persons on his side of thinking because of cussedness. 
    Rustom and his fellow thinkers talk of ecology  and assume that alternate system of disposal is confined to burial or crematorium. Why they cannot comprehend that chemical decomposition too is ecologically sound?
    Oft and on and since last five years we have heard this tall talk of Strengthening  the so called system but that has remained a talk only. Playing on words by saying that ‘system has weakened’ does not attend the issue.
    Lastly, to associate a system of disposal to Z’ism is basically trying to create a fear psychosis in the mind of the reader. Many Parsee Zoros opt for crematorium and the ‘sin ‘  for this is not on the shoulder of the deceased or on his /her relatives but on the cussed coterie who cannot think out of box beyond crematorium and burial. These bogus traditionalists are not capable of coming to term with realities. Many in the Community will felicitate Rustom and fellow thinkers like him if they can complete their mission of ‘strengthening’ by 2050 by which time Parsee population will be little more than half of present population. So much for his tall talk, which we have been reading since many years.

  • xyz

    yes, i can help. get in touch.

  • xyz

    yes, i can help. get in touch.

  • Phiroze

    Mr. P j Dubash, I believe in self help is best help. If you do not like someone doing things his way then you should be ready to do the same. There is no point in talking. One has to also walk the talk. The elections have been held twice when xyz or gb could have gone to the voters with their vision for the BPP and asked to be given a chance. They didn’t but now want those who did and won to be dismissed just because they say so. Does not make sense at all.

  • Phiroze

    Mr. P j Dubash, I believe in self help is best help. If you do not like someone doing things his way then you should be ready to do the same. There is no point in talking. One has to also walk the talk. The elections have been held twice when xyz or gb could have gone to the voters with their vision for the BPP and asked to be given a chance. They didn’t but now want those who did and won to be dismissed just because they say so. Does not make sense at all.

  • Phiroze

    You and xyz have a problem with the present trustees so you can replace them. What is the point in talking big if you can’t even fight an election? If you reveal your identity I shall vote for both of you and thats a promise.

  • Phiroze

    You and xyz have a problem with the present trustees so you can replace them. What is the point in talking big if you can’t even fight an election? If you reveal your identity I shall vote for both of you and thats a promise.

  • Piloo.

    Warped version of WAPIZ, particularly of selectively banning renegade Priests, excluding those who performed Navjotes and Uthamna of industrialists did not go well with the electorate resulting in defeat of their candidate. I am no spokesperson for XYZ or anybody but the policies pursued by BPP are as popular as  Gaddafi.

  • Piloo.

    Warped version of WAPIZ, particularly of selectively banning renegade Priests, excluding those who performed Navjotes and Uthamna of industrialists did not go well with the electorate resulting in defeat of their candidate. I am no spokesperson for XYZ or anybody but the policies pursued by BPP are as popular as  Gaddafi.

  • Phiroze

    There you have the answer. If the Parsis have a better choice they will not vote for Wapiz candidates. So its time for people to walk the talk like Mr. Cama and be the change they desire instead of ranting and raving on the net and being an armchair activist. 

  • Phiroze

    There you have the answer. If the Parsis have a better choice they will not vote for Wapiz candidates. So its time for people to walk the talk like Mr. Cama and be the change they desire instead of ranting and raving on the net and being an armchair activist. 

  • gb

    If I stand for elections,I need minimum Rs 1 crore for canvassing and to feed all of you free dinners. I will never waste my hard earned money on parsis like you. So just forget it.

  • gb

    If I stand for elections,I need minimum Rs 1 crore for canvassing and to feed all of you free dinners. I will never waste my hard earned money on parsis like you. So just forget it.

  • xyz

    you can leave your email address. I will contact you.

  • xyz

    you can leave your email address. I will contact you.

  • xyz

    you can leave your email address. I will contact you.

  • Phiroze

    So in short you will only point fingers at others but will not like to stick out your neck. Very typical of your types – armchair activitists. The PArsis are not fools to fall for your tricks.

  • Phiroze

    So in short you will only point fingers at others but will not like to stick out your neck. Very typical of your types – armchair activitists. The PArsis are not fools to fall for your tricks.

  • xyz

    It was really a pity how gadaffi died. What an irony of fate. we do not want the same incident repeated in parsi community please. So phiroze and dubash please stop this fighting.

  • xyz

    It was really a pity how gadaffi died. What an irony of fate. we do not want the same incident repeated in parsi community please. So phiroze and dubash please stop this fighting.

  • Piloo.

    There is no fighting between myself and Phiroze. He has his archaic views and I being down to earth speak my mind out to what realities I  and other sensible persons pereceive.

  • Piloo.

    There is no fighting between myself and Phiroze. He has his archaic views and I being down to earth speak my mind out to what realities I  and other sensible persons pereceive.

  • Rathestar

    Mr. XYZ,
    I  am of  the opinion that controversies can be nipped in the bud if all try to accept opposite point of view, be accomodative.Phiroze seems to live oops think as if the circumstances and conditions are same as those in prevailing two generations back. Fine for him but not for many. Therein lies the genesis of the tu tu main main.

  • Rathestar

    Mr. XYZ,
    I  am of  the opinion that controversies can be nipped in the bud if all try to accept opposite point of view, be accomodative.Phiroze seems to live oops think as if the circumstances and conditions are same as those in prevailing two generations back. Fine for him but not for many. Therein lies the genesis of the tu tu main main.

  • Phiroze

    Khurshednashini cannot change till the time the sun is shinning. It is the pseudo parsis like you all who have changed the circumstances and conditions.

  • Phiroze

    Khurshednashini cannot change till the time the sun is shinning. It is the pseudo parsis like you all who have changed the circumstances and conditions.

  • Phiroze

    Right we have no quarells as such. being down to earth does not mean changing the very core of system does it?

  • Phiroze

    Right we have no quarells as such. being down to earth does not mean changing the very core of system does it?

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze,
    You may argue till cows come home but do you meant to say that  sun does not shine on Hill Stations? Then why are there Aramghas and not dakhmas? 
    Secondly,  only an ignorant personwould say that that environment conditions, greenery etc are more conducive to Vultures yet on most hill stations in an aroundMahashtra, there are Aramghas. ANY ANSWERS?

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze,
    You may argue till cows come home but do you meant to say that  sun does not shine on Hill Stations? Then why are there Aramghas and not dakhmas? 
    Secondly,  only an ignorant personwould say that that environment conditions, greenery etc are more conducive to Vultures yet on most hill stations in an aroundMahashtra, there are Aramghas. ANY ANSWERS?

  • Phiroze

    Contradhongi, yes the sun shines on hills but do you know what it takes to build a dokhma? If you leave a cavader on the hill it will disintegrate over time but will also spread pollution and filth in the surrounding areas. A dokhma is built in such a scientific way to contain and not allow the pollution to spread. Scavenging birds are a part of the this system and not the system itself. Secondly if you knew what it takes to build a dokhma you would know why it is not possible to have them in places where the Parsi populations is less.

  • Phiroze

    Contradhongi, yes the sun shines on hills but do you know what it takes to build a dokhma? If you leave a cavader on the hill it will disintegrate over time but will also spread pollution and filth in the surrounding areas. A dokhma is built in such a scientific way to contain and not allow the pollution to spread. Scavenging birds are a part of the this system and not the system itself. Secondly if you knew what it takes to build a dokhma you would know why it is not possible to have them in places where the Parsi populations is less.

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze, 
    There you go again off tangent. My question is why there are no dakhmas  on hill stations where vulture population is possible. Your explanation if it can be called one is about the ceremonies  required for consecration of dakhma. It is you who  earlier mentioned about Khurshed Nigarashni and now you talk of population size little realizing that Parsee population is nowhere near what it was three decades back in Mumbai. It seems you cannot convince anybody so you go on jumping from one point to another entangling yourself in your self created web. Just give a reply, if  SUNSHINE ALONE (WITHOUT BIRDS OF PREY) WAS ADEQUATE FOR DISPOSAL OF CORPSES THEN WHY WERE ARAMGHAS STARTED AT CERTAIN PLACES.IF YOU CANNOT GIVE A COGENT REPLY DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE ISSUES.THANKS.

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze, 
    There you go again off tangent. My question is why there are no dakhmas  on hill stations where vulture population is possible. Your explanation if it can be called one is about the ceremonies  required for consecration of dakhma. It is you who  earlier mentioned about Khurshed Nigarashni and now you talk of population size little realizing that Parsee population is nowhere near what it was three decades back in Mumbai. It seems you cannot convince anybody so you go on jumping from one point to another entangling yourself in your self created web. Just give a reply, if  SUNSHINE ALONE (WITHOUT BIRDS OF PREY) WAS ADEQUATE FOR DISPOSAL OF CORPSES THEN WHY WERE ARAMGHAS STARTED AT CERTAIN PLACES.IF YOU CANNOT GIVE A COGENT REPLY DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE ISSUES.THANKS.

  • Contradhongi

    To an extent Phiroze you are right when you say and I use your own sentence 
     “If you leave a cavader on the hill it will disintegrate over time but will also spread pollution and filth in the surrounding areas.” That precisely is what is actually happening in Mumbai.You would have experience this if you have visited Doongerwadi i.e. the stench notwithstanding the pouring of bovine urine as it is an Air Freshener
    If you feel it is different then please elaborate in WHAT WAY IT IS DIFFERENT
    Thanks..

  • Zerxes Dordi

    Hi, Phiroze. Sorry to butt in but since the issue concerns  the community I could not resist  in asking a clarification since you appear to be very knowledgeable.
     1)You have rightly stated that scavenging birds are a part of the system  and not a system itself. As such please  clarify why nobody opposed Solar Concentrators and insisted on Scavenging birds then. 2)You have rightly stated  that it takes a lot of rituals to consecrate a dokhma. So logically you would concede that Solar Concentrators are not a part of  original system and therefore not in keeping with age old  tenets of our faith.  Right or wrong?
    3) Is  your concept of pollution only confined to noise and dust and excludes stink?

    4)

  • Zerxes Dordi

    Hi, Phiroze. Sorry to butt in but since the issue concerns  the community I could not resist  in asking a clarification since you appear to be very knowledgeable.
     1)You have rightly stated that scavenging birds are a part of the system  and not a system itself. As such please  clarify why nobody opposed Solar Concentrators and insisted on Scavenging birds then. 2)You have rightly stated  that it takes a lot of rituals to consecrate a dokhma. So logically you would concede that Solar Concentrators are not a part of  original system and therefore not in keeping with age old  tenets of our faith.  Right or wrong?
    3) Is  your concept of pollution only confined to noise and dust and excludes stink?

    4)

  • Ichhaporia

    You are correct Mr. Dodri,
    Ahura Mazda gifted us eyes to see, he gave sense of smell and above all faculties to rationalise and think. You cannot help a person who refuses to believe what he sees and refuses to think beyond what his grandparents thought was correct and which was perhaps correct during those times. 

  • Ichhaporia

    You are correct Mr. Dodri,
    Ahura Mazda gifted us eyes to see, he gave sense of smell and above all faculties to rationalise and think. You cannot help a person who refuses to believe what he sees and refuses to think beyond what his grandparents thought was correct and which was perhaps correct during those times. 

  • Phiroze

    I do visit the doongerwadi often for funerals and there is no pollution there, on the contrary the air around there is fresher due to the trees as compared to Kemps corner flyover and other parts of the city. The nirang is also a disinfectant if you must know. If you don’t like it don’t visit the doongerwadi. 

  • Phiroze

    I do visit the doongerwadi often for funerals and there is no pollution there, on the contrary the air around there is fresher due to the trees as compared to Kemps corner flyover and other parts of the city. The nirang is also a disinfectant if you must know. If you don’t like it don’t visit the doongerwadi. 

  • Phiroze

    dhongi, could you  please specify which hill stations around mumbai have enough Parsi population where you would like to build dokhmas on?  There is no point in having new dhokhmas where there are not enough Parsis, forget the birds. Ask a cogent question to get a cogent reply. U r wellcome.

  • Phiroze

    dhongi, could you  please specify which hill stations around mumbai have enough Parsi population where you would like to build dokhmas on?  There is no point in having new dhokhmas where there are not enough Parsis, forget the birds. Ask a cogent question to get a cogent reply. U r wellcome.

  • Phiroze

    Hi! Zerxes. No issues you are welcome to butt in anytime. I am sorry I am more practical then knowledgeable. I feel the solar concentrators could help  the system although they were not a part of the tenets. 

  • Phiroze

    Hi! Zerxes. No issues you are welcome to butt in anytime. I am sorry I am more practical then knowledgeable. I feel the solar concentrators could help  the system although they were not a part of the tenets. 

  • Phiroze

    Hi! Zerxes. No issues you are welcome to butt in anytime. I am sorry I am more practical then knowledgeable. I feel the solar concentrators could help  the system although they were not a part of the tenets. 

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze, You seem to be unaware of distinction between Nirang and bulls urine. All bulls urine is NOT NIRANG. Learn, study and then preach.

  • Contradhongi

    Phiroze, You seem to be unaware of distinction between Nirang and bulls urine. All bulls urine is NOT NIRANG. Learn, study and then preach.

  • Zerxes Dordi

    Phiroz,
    Would not  chemical decomposition expedite the disintegration faster? Would not such a process be an aid in the same manner of Solar Panels? I am discussing this as you have stated that you are more practical minded then knowledgeable.

  • Zerxes Dordi

    Phiroz,
    Would not  chemical decomposition expedite the disintegration faster? Would not such a process be an aid in the same manner of Solar Panels? I am discussing this as you have stated that you are more practical minded then knowledgeable.

  • Rustom

    Another encouraging article..from positive , patient effort..LU students mull ‘restaurant’ to raise vulture population in UPIsha Jain, TNN Oct 20, 2011, 04.08AM IST
    LUCKNOW: Concerned over the steep decline of vulture population in the state, researchers of Lucknow University’s Zoology department have come up with the idea of ‘vulture restaurant’, a place which would offer ‘good’ food to the scavenger.The study carried out by Prof Amita Kanujiya and Sonika Kushwaha, a research scholar of LU’s Zoology department has proposed the concept of vulture restaurant. “The practice of purchasing sick and infirm cattle for skin and meat by slaughtering agents has led to the shortage of food for the vultures,” said Sonika.Giving an example of Bundelkhand region, Sonika explained that how drastic climatic changes during the past 10 years have resulted in the near extinction of vultures. The farmers in the region have faced drought since the past five to six years and were therefore, forced to reduce the number of cattle. Hence, the availability of food to vultures also rolled down substantially.The researchers also attributed the change in cattle-keeping pattern and the disposal of dead cattle as factors responsible for the food shortage.”The dead cattle, which were earlier left for the vultures to feed, are now buried. Hence, it is difficult for them to survive without the food,” said Sonika. To note, vultures depend on carnivores’ kills in the forest areas and on cattle flesh in unprotected areas for the food. The deterioration of both has led to scarcity of food for them. The Egyptian vultures in particular depend on slaughter houses and bone mills for their food.Experts have also cited habitat destruction through devastation of feeding sites and cutting of trees used for nesting as another major cause for the declining vulture population.”We have found that many sites, where vultures used to feed in the past are now housing under-construction building,” the research team members said.The vulture restaurant will also provide hygienic food to the vultures. As per the forest officials, the food will be free from diclofenac. “The concept involves asking villagers to bring the body of a dead animal to the site where vulture restaurant will be set up. In turn, they will be compensated for not using diclofenac and making available food for the vultures,” said a forest official. Diclofenac is one of the major reasons for the spurt in vulture deaths.At present, the vulture restaurant in Nawalparasi, Nepal is a huge success. As per the study, the Bird Conservation Nepal reported that by providing drug free food at the site, the number of nesting pairs increased from 17 in 2005 to 32 in 2007. In India, Surat Nature Club in 2009, started a ‘vulture feeding site’ in Hazira, Gujarat, which offers hygienic food to the vultures. In 2010, the Maharashtra government opened a ‘restaurant’ to provide food to the scavengers. Sonika shared that the dumping site in Jorbeer, Rajasthan abodes nearly 4,000 vultures every year just because there is enough food.”There are nearly 2,100 vultures left in the state. And there are only some areas where the vultures exist. The study done by the researchers is to assist the conservationists in healthy management of vulture population. Carried out in various districts of Jhansi, Jalaun, Lalitpur, Mahoba, Banda, Bahraich, Maharajganj, Unnao, Lakhimpur, Gonda, Kanpur and Faizabad, the objective is to help increase the vulture population.http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-10-20/lucknow/30302588_1_vulture-population-egyptian-vultures-dead-cattlePssstttt..im sure the fault finders/ discouragers / anti dakhma/will find fault with any encouraging news…

  • Rustom

    Another encouraging article..from positive , patient effort..LU students mull ‘restaurant’ to raise vulture population in UPIsha Jain, TNN Oct 20, 2011, 04.08AM IST
    LUCKNOW: Concerned over the steep decline of vulture population in the state, researchers of Lucknow University’s Zoology department have come up with the idea of ‘vulture restaurant’, a place which would offer ‘good’ food to the scavenger.The study carried out by Prof Amita Kanujiya and Sonika Kushwaha, a research scholar of LU’s Zoology department has proposed the concept of vulture restaurant. “The practice of purchasing sick and infirm cattle for skin and meat by slaughtering agents has led to the shortage of food for the vultures,” said Sonika.Giving an example of Bundelkhand region, Sonika explained that how drastic climatic changes during the past 10 years have resulted in the near extinction of vultures. The farmers in the region have faced drought since the past five to six years and were therefore, forced to reduce the number of cattle. Hence, the availability of food to vultures also rolled down substantially.The researchers also attributed the change in cattle-keeping pattern and the disposal of dead cattle as factors responsible for the food shortage.”The dead cattle, which were earlier left for the vultures to feed, are now buried. Hence, it is difficult for them to survive without the food,” said Sonika. To note, vultures depend on carnivores’ kills in the forest areas and on cattle flesh in unprotected areas for the food. The deterioration of both has led to scarcity of food for them. The Egyptian vultures in particular depend on slaughter houses and bone mills for their food.Experts have also cited habitat destruction through devastation of feeding sites and cutting of trees used for nesting as another major cause for the declining vulture population.”We have found that many sites, where vultures used to feed in the past are now housing under-construction building,” the research team members said.The vulture restaurant will also provide hygienic food to the vultures. As per the forest officials, the food will be free from diclofenac. “The concept involves asking villagers to bring the body of a dead animal to the site where vulture restaurant will be set up. In turn, they will be compensated for not using diclofenac and making available food for the vultures,” said a forest official. Diclofenac is one of the major reasons for the spurt in vulture deaths.At present, the vulture restaurant in Nawalparasi, Nepal is a huge success. As per the study, the Bird Conservation Nepal reported that by providing drug free food at the site, the number of nesting pairs increased from 17 in 2005 to 32 in 2007. In India, Surat Nature Club in 2009, started a ‘vulture feeding site’ in Hazira, Gujarat, which offers hygienic food to the vultures. In 2010, the Maharashtra government opened a ‘restaurant’ to provide food to the scavengers. Sonika shared that the dumping site in Jorbeer, Rajasthan abodes nearly 4,000 vultures every year just because there is enough food.”There are nearly 2,100 vultures left in the state. And there are only some areas where the vultures exist. The study done by the researchers is to assist the conservationists in healthy management of vulture population. Carried out in various districts of Jhansi, Jalaun, Lalitpur, Mahoba, Banda, Bahraich, Maharajganj, Unnao, Lakhimpur, Gonda, Kanpur and Faizabad, the objective is to help increase the vulture population.http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-10-20/lucknow/30302588_1_vulture-population-egyptian-vultures-dead-cattlePssstttt..im sure the fault finders/ discouragers / anti dakhma/will find fault with any encouraging news…

  • Phiroze

    How due you know that it is bulls urine and not nirang?. Did you supply the urine or were there when it was sprinkled? Or are you just repeating others like a parrot??????? 

  • Phiroze

    How due you know that it is bulls urine and not nirang?. Did you supply the urine or were there when it was sprinkled? Or are you just repeating others like a parrot??????? 

  • Contradhongi

    Is there an oversupply of Nirang? What is being procured is urine from Panjrapole.  Just because you cannot discuss rationally do not indulge in name calling like parrot etc. I refrain from calliing you a parrot though you repeat what is told to you by vested interest without verifying.
     I have VERIFIED.

  • Contradhongi

    Is there an oversupply of Nirang? What is being procured is urine from Panjrapole.  Just because you cannot discuss rationally do not indulge in name calling like parrot etc. I refrain from calliing you a parrot though you repeat what is told to you by vested interest without verifying.
     I have VERIFIED.

  • gb

    Mr. Khojestee Mistree must immediately start aviary project when there are so many vultures still left in India. This is his pet project. How can we forget Dhun Baria and the photographs of the inflated decomposed bodies lying in the tower of silence for one year. What happens after one year ?? Solar Concentrators do not function the way it should function. There is a rumour that after one year khandias burn all those dead bodies. Is it true ?? Will Mr. Dinshaw Mehta and Mr. Khojestee Mistree please clarify the complete detailed position as on to-day’s date and their future plan of action. 

  • gb

    Mr. Khojestee Mistree must immediately start aviary project when there are so many vultures still left in India. This is his pet project. How can we forget Dhun Baria and the photographs of the inflated decomposed bodies lying in the tower of silence for one year. What happens after one year ?? Solar Concentrators do not function the way it should function. There is a rumour that after one year khandias burn all those dead bodies. Is it true ?? Will Mr. Dinshaw Mehta and Mr. Khojestee Mistree please clarify the complete detailed position as on to-day’s date and their future plan of action. 

  • Tehmul

    Phiroze, It is hard to believe that a seasoned Parsi assumes that Nirang is used at Doongerwadi. Please go and check yourself and ask any Priest the distinction between Nirang and bulls urine. Do not insult the purification process involved in Nirangdin. Check facts before showing off yoiur ignorance

  • Tehmul

    Phiroze, It is hard to believe that a seasoned Parsi assumes that Nirang is used at Doongerwadi. Please go and check yourself and ask any Priest the distinction between Nirang and bulls urine. Do not insult the purification process involved in Nirangdin. Check facts before showing off yoiur ignorance

  • Phiroze

    Zerxes, would not chemical decomposition change the very core of the system? Whatever we do should be within the core of the sysytem. Adding chemicals is not the same as reflecting sun’s rays.

  • Phiroze

    Zerxes, would not chemical decomposition change the very core of the system? Whatever we do should be within the core of the sysytem. Adding chemicals is not the same as reflecting sun’s rays.

  • Phiroze

    Ichhaporia, I am a priest myself and know the distinction and have attended Nirangdins too. instead of showing your ignorance read up on the disinfectant properties of bovine urine.

  • Phiroze

    Ichhaporia, I am a priest myself and know the distinction and have attended Nirangdins too. instead of showing your ignorance read up on the disinfectant properties of bovine urine.

  • Phiroze

    Ichhaporia, I am a priest myself and know the distinction and have attended Nirangdins too. instead of showing your ignorance read up on the disinfectant properties of bovine urine.

  • Tehmul77

    Phiroze:
    Just give a simple answer. Does not Nirangdin ceremony ensures that it remains pure wheras plain bovine urine develops germs. Moreover bovine urine procured by BPP is reportedly from Panjrapole and would include urine of coes including menstruating cows.Who is showing ignorance is  for readers to decide.

  • Tehmul77

    Phiroze:
    Just give a simple answer. Does not Nirangdin ceremony ensures that it remains pure wheras plain bovine urine develops germs. Moreover bovine urine procured by BPP is reportedly from Panjrapole and would include urine of coes including menstruating cows.Who is showing ignorance is  for readers to decide.

  • Dr Dau lal bohara

    Hi

    I am working in Jorbeer Dumping site with vulture concern last 7-8 year. Regarding statement or mentaion Sonkia  in yours page, vulture population is not there and they data discriminating themes for vultures. So please correct it.

    Thanks