10 Predictions for Parsis for 2011

Date

January 6, 2011

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arZan

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Taking a leaf out of Bejan Daruwalla, the renowned astrologer, Bombay Samachar takes a shot at predictions for Parsis in 2011

  1. A BPP trustee will resign and elections will be held. Efforts to find a ‘Consensus’ candidate will fail. Mehta-WAPIZ will put up Pheroze Amroliwalla as their candidate. He will lose.
  2. 104 flat allotment matter will work itself out. 60 allotments have already been made. The balance 40 will be a 50:50 split between BPP and AZA.
  3. As compared to last three years, litigation between BPP and AZA, before Charity Commissioner and High Court, will considerably diminish.
  4. Construction of new flats at Panthaky Baug will commence.
  5. New building construction at Godrej Baug will be stayed by the Charity Commissioner.
  6. WAPIZ’s relationship with Dinshaw Mehta will move from ‘red hot’ to lukewarm.
  7. Appeal in the banned priests case will be unsuccessful on some technical ground. WAPIZ will gloat. The liberals will approach the Supreme Court, where they will get relief, after both sides have spent lakhs over a non-issue.
  8. The 2011 Census will reveal that the decline in Parsi population is more serious than thought. WAPIZ will deny the authenticity of the figures.
  9. Some Parsis will get Padma Bhushan on Republic Day. But not Areez Khambatta, who should get ‘Bharat Ratna’ for his Sanjan Day speech.
  10. One out of every three marriages will be interfaith, but fewer will opt for cremation in 2011, as a feeling returns (erroneously, of course) that all is well at Doongerwadi.

Printed in the THE BOMBAY SAMACHAR of January 02, 2011

38 Comments

  1. piloo_2

    While it remains to be seen if these forecasts from a person who ‘gifted’ the community the ‘merits’ of Universal Adult Franchise in Charity & property management actually take place, I have one prediction to make.
    An English daily from Mumbai, whose circulation is nothing to write about, will discontinue publishing Religious harangues in form of advertisement sponsored by juiceless imitation of Tang and subsequently a community’s ‘ weakly’ Journal which has survived by selling its tenancy in Mangalore House and subsequently in Arya Samaj Building will shift now from HasanAli House to Framji Cawasjee Hall.
    And thereafter all bawas will get its copy free every week or at subsidized rates instead of present Rs. 5/ per copy

  2. piloo_2

    While it remains to be seen if these forecasts from a person who ‘gifted’ the community the ‘merits’ of Universal Adult Franchise in Charity & property management actually take place, I have one prediction to make.
    An English daily from Mumbai, whose circulation is nothing to write about, will discontinue publishing Religious harangues in form of advertisement sponsored by juiceless imitation of Tang and subsequently a community’s ‘ weakly’ Journal which has survived by selling its tenancy in Mangalore House and subsequently in Arya Samaj Building will shift now from HasanAli House to Framji Cawasjee Hall.
    And thereafter all bawas will get its copy free every week or at subsidized rates instead of present Rs. 5/ per copy

  3. Dorab.

    WISHFUL THINKING OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHICH WILL ADD TO THE FRUSTRATION OF SUCH HOPEFULS BY DECEMBER 2011.
    As for suggestion of conferring Bharat Ratna on Khambatta, at least on next Sanjan day BPP should confer Sanjan Ratna on him for attempting to renew the mythical pledge given to Rana, though Khambatta cannot make his two henchmen BPP Trustees fulfill the pledge to declare their assets if elected. It is now over two years.
    An E Mail is doing rounds, in which the ‘author’ has raised two very pertinent issues.
    Since Khambatta is in charge of West Zone II in the Federation, why he does not object to the elevation of a priests as Meherjirana (who too does not reside in Navsari but in Mumbai) since his sons are married to non Parsees.

    The second poser is why Khambatta is no longer on Ahmedabad Parsee Punchayat as an Office bearers.
    One can watch with amusement the discomfiture of those who are beneficiaries of the large sized Ashodad Envelopes and Free lunches with booze.
    An a wag has cracked a joke that alphabets A,I, Z are common between WAPIZ and NAZI.

  4. Dorab.

    And as the fable goes, other promises to Rana were:

    1) No marriage ceremonies amonst Parsees before Sunset;
    2) Parsees to adopt the same type of dress as the locals.

    But our ancestors aped Britishers and started wearing Trousers and Shirts with Cravats and Parsee females defy the pledge by wearing jeans and shirts in contrast to Saress and even enter our Fire Tepmles.
    As for marriages amongs Parsees, if we have to ‘renew’ our ‘pledge’, all marriages that took place in mornings ought to be annuled and the children from such alliances declared as “……..” the term used by a priest in Nagpur Fire Temple before being replaced.

  5. Rémi

    K. While reading the Denkard, Book 5, Chap 31, Q&A 14, Parsi High Priests realize that their ethnicist view of Zoroastriansim is not legitimate, thus giving the means for the community to prosper and live its future.

    “And the Creator Ohrmazd sent this religion (for) its proclamation not only in the country of Iran, but in the whole world, (and) among all races (of mankind)” translation by Peshotan Dastur Behramjee Sanjana

    “The Creator Ohrmazd sends this religion not only to the Kingdom of Iran but to the whole world and to every variety [of human beings].” translation by Shaul Shaked

  6. Dorab.

    WISHFUL THINKING OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHICH WILL ADD TO THE FRUSTRATION OF SUCH HOPEFULS BY DECEMBER 2011.
    As for suggestion of conferring Bharat Ratna on Khambatta, at least on next Sanjan day BPP should confer Sanjan Ratna on him for attempting to renew the mythical pledge given to Rana, though Khambatta cannot make his two henchmen BPP Trustees fulfill the pledge to declare their assets if elected. It is now over two years.
    An E Mail is doing rounds, in which the ‘author’ has raised two very pertinent issues.
    Since Khambatta is in charge of West Zone II in the Federation, why he does not object to the elevation of a priests as Meherjirana (who too does not reside in Navsari but in Mumbai) since his sons are married to non Parsees.

    The second poser is why Khambatta is no longer on Ahmedabad Parsee Punchayat as an Office bearers.
    One can watch with amusement the discomfiture of those who are beneficiaries of the large sized Ashodad Envelopes and Free lunches with booze.
    An a wag has cracked a joke that alphabets A,I, Z are common between WAPIZ and NAZI.

  7. Dorab.

    And as the fable goes, other promises to Rana were:

    1) No marriage ceremonies amonst Parsees before Sunset;
    2) Parsees to adopt the same type of dress as the locals.

    But our ancestors aped Britishers and started wearing Trousers and Shirts with Cravats and Parsee females defy the pledge by wearing jeans and shirts in contrast to Saress and even enter our Fire Tepmles.
    As for marriages amongs Parsees, if we have to ‘renew’ our ‘pledge’, all marriages that took place in mornings ought to be annuled and the children from such alliances declared as “……..” the term used by a priest in Nagpur Fire Temple before being replaced.

  8. Rémi

    K. While reading the Denkard, Book 5, Chap 31, Q&A 14, Parsi High Priests realize that their ethnicist view of Zoroastriansim is not legitimate, thus giving the means for the community to prosper and live its future.

    “And the Creator Ohrmazd sent this religion (for) its proclamation not only in the country of Iran, but in the whole world, (and) among all races (of mankind)” translation by Peshotan Dastur Behramjee Sanjana

    “The Creator Ohrmazd sends this religion not only to the Kingdom of Iran but to the whole world and to every variety [of human beings].” translation by Shaul Shaked

  9. Zerxes.Dordi

    In Beetle Bailey Strip we have General Halftrack and we have a Parsi counterpart in what Dorab calls future Sanjan Ratna.
    LOL.

  10. Zerxes.Dordi

    In Beetle Bailey Strip we have General Halftrack and we have a Parsi counterpart in what Dorab calls future Sanjan Ratna.
    LOL.

  11. Barak Aga

    Rémi, you can quote all the scriptures you wish to, but it will be in vain.

    Zoroastrianism is subservient to the WAPIZ and the 6 High Priests, rather than they being subservient to the faith.

    Look what the Priests did to Jadi Rana. They gave him sugar and milk, requested him for refuge.

    Once Jadi Rana gave them refuge, they kicked the poor King out of his own kingdom on the grounds that the presence of a “non-Parsi” would affect the “sanctity and solemnity” of their “Fire Temple”.

    The priests have jettisoned “Ahura Mazda”, and have co-opted “Ahura Rasna” the God with sachet sized intellect.

  12. Barak Aga

    The Gathas state that Zarathustra faced ill-will in his mother’s home town.

    Can the WAPIZ and the High Priests explain this concept of a “fused ethnicity”, when Zarathustra was turned away by his own ethnic brethren.

    Zarathustra found his 1 disciple, Maidhyoimangha after 14 years, so where did we end up with 6 High Priests from?

    Shouldn’t the 6 High Priests trace their ancestry and establish consanguinity with the priests from the times of Zarathustra, before claiming the mantle of “High Priest”?

  13. Barak Aga

    According to the warped reasoning of the WAPIZ and the 6 High Priests, Prophet Zarathustra would not be allowed entry in to a “Parsi”, Fire Temple, as neither Zarathustra’s mother, nor his father were Zoroastrians, and as such Zarathustra was not born of both Zoroastrian parents.

  14. Barak Aga

    Rémi, you can quote all the scriptures you wish to, but it will be in vain.

    Zoroastrianism is subservient to the WAPIZ and the 6 High Priests, rather than they being subservient to the faith.

    Look what the Priests did to Jadi Rana. They gave him sugar and milk, requested him for refuge.

    Once Jadi Rana gave them refuge, they kicked the poor King out of his own kingdom on the grounds that the presence of a “non-Parsi” would affect the “sanctity and solemnity” of their “Fire Temple”.

    The priests have jettisoned “Ahura Mazda”, and have co-opted “Ahura Rasna” the God with sachet sized intellect.

  15. Barak Aga

    The Gathas state that Zarathustra faced ill-will in his mother’s home town.

    Can the WAPIZ and the High Priests explain this concept of a “fused ethnicity”, when Zarathustra was turned away by his own ethnic brethren.

    Zarathustra found his 1 disciple, Maidhyoimangha after 14 years, so where did we end up with 6 High Priests from?

    Shouldn’t the 6 High Priests trace their ancestry and establish consanguinity with the priests from the times of Zarathustra, before claiming the mantle of “High Priest”?

  16. Barak Aga

    According to the warped reasoning of the WAPIZ and the 6 High Priests, Prophet Zarathustra would not be allowed entry in to a “Parsi”, Fire Temple, as neither Zarathustra’s mother, nor his father were Zoroastrians, and as such Zarathustra was not born of both Zoroastrian parents.

  17. Boman Patel

    The prediction “.A BPP trustee will resign and elections will be held. Efforts to find a ‘Consensus’ candidate will fail. Mehta-WAPIZ will put up Pheroze Amroliwalla as their candidate. He will lose.’ is to be read with a pinch of salt. If at all elections do take place and Amrolowalla – an excellent Social Worker decides to contest, he will face a biggest handicap – viz his new found association with WAPIZ. This will deter independent minded individuals to vote for him.
    My suggestion to this fine human material would be to stand as independent and declare his manifesto without worrying about the pressures from WAPIZ. No body knows better about the state of affairs at Doongerwadi better than him and he should act as per his conscience on this subject instead of being bogged down by burden of favours from a reactionary organisation.
    It is better for reputation to lose but live as per conscience than to win and remain indebted in perpetuity to fundamentalists and bigots.

  18. Boman Patel

    The prediction “.A BPP trustee will resign and elections will be held. Efforts to find a ‘Consensus’ candidate will fail. Mehta-WAPIZ will put up Pheroze Amroliwalla as their candidate. He will lose.’ is to be read with a pinch of salt. If at all elections do take place and Amrolowalla – an excellent Social Worker decides to contest, he will face a biggest handicap – viz his new found association with WAPIZ. This will deter independent minded individuals to vote for him.
    My suggestion to this fine human material would be to stand as independent and declare his manifesto without worrying about the pressures from WAPIZ. No body knows better about the state of affairs at Doongerwadi better than him and he should act as per his conscience on this subject instead of being bogged down by burden of favours from a reactionary organisation.
    It is better for reputation to lose but live as per conscience than to win and remain indebted in perpetuity to fundamentalists and bigots.

  19. Icchaporia.

    I have an academic question here. Can a person contest election of a Trustee of BPP if his name does not figure in the List of Voters both General and Donor.
    I have perused the Lists and find the name of a WAPIZ founder member not appearing in both the lists. This person is renowned in the community as a Trustee of innumerable Fire Temples inclusding Atas Behrams and a community venue for Navjotes and Weddings.He is non controversial too.
    I would like to be enlightened in terms of Scheme of Election

  20. Icchaporia.

    I have an academic question here. Can a person contest election of a Trustee of BPP if his name does not figure in the List of Voters both General and Donor.
    I have perused the Lists and find the name of a WAPIZ founder member not appearing in both the lists. This person is renowned in the community as a Trustee of innumerable Fire Temples inclusding Atas Behrams and a community venue for Navjotes and Weddings.He is non controversial too.
    I would like to be enlightened in terms of Scheme of Election

  21. Byram Sidhwa

    This is an open letter to Mr. Berjis Desai.
    Sir,
    In 2008 you wanted to usher October Revolution but the remedy turned out to be worst than the ailment.
    It is a suggestion from many well intentioned persons that the Scheme of Elections needs to be modified in light of the ‘experience’.
    Suggestions are two in number:
    First during any Election, at least 50 persent of electorate should cast their votes, else the election should be treated as Void. Our aim should be to make elections truly represntative.
    Second suggestion is that unless the candidate secures at least 35 percent of valid votes cast, he or she cannot be declared elected.
    I am expecting a poser that if these stipulations are not satisfied then what. Sir, it is better to be not governed than be misgoverned.
    There are many Trustee Companies managing large resources of Mutual Funds. They can approached if genuinely representatives are not got elected.
    Other suggestions are most welcome.

  22. Byram Sidhwa

    This is an open letter to Mr. Berjis Desai.
    Sir,
    In 2008 you wanted to usher October Revolution but the remedy turned out to be worst than the ailment.
    It is a suggestion from many well intentioned persons that the Scheme of Elections needs to be modified in light of the ‘experience’.
    Suggestions are two in number:
    First during any Election, at least 50 persent of electorate should cast their votes, else the election should be treated as Void. Our aim should be to make elections truly represntative.
    Second suggestion is that unless the candidate secures at least 35 percent of valid votes cast, he or she cannot be declared elected.
    I am expecting a poser that if these stipulations are not satisfied then what. Sir, it is better to be not governed than be misgoverned.
    There are many Trustee Companies managing large resources of Mutual Funds. They can approached if genuinely representatives are not got elected.
    Other suggestions are most welcome.

  23. Faith 94

    Bejan Daruwalla is a charlatan, a false astrologer, taking all his energy from satan/devil himself who controls him and tell him that it is called lord ganesh power. All bullshit. Almighty GOD will judge him most misarably after his final breath on this planet.

  24. Faith 94

    Bejan Daruwalla is a charlatan, a false astrologer, taking all his energy from satan/devil himself who controls him and tell him that it is called lord ganesh power. All bullshit. Almighty GOD will judge him most misarably after his final breath on this planet.

  25. Zerxes.

    HOW MANY OF THESE PREDICTIONS HAVE TURNED CORRECT. YES THERE WAS ONE RESIGNATION OF A TRUSTEE BUT  AMROLIWALLA IS NOT IN FRAY.
    EVEN ITEM ‘G’ DID NOT COME TRUE.
    NOW HERE ARE MY SET OF PRECTIONS. WAPIZ CANDIDATE WILL EMERGE A WINNER. BICKERINGS IN BOARD ROOM WILL INCREASE.  YET ANOTHER TRUSTEE WILL RESIGN AND BY 2012 PARSEES WILL HAVE TO LINE UP FOR VOTING ONCE AGAIN. THERE IS EVERY LIKELIHOOD OF TWO SET OF TRUSTEES FILING COURT CASES.

  26. Zerxes.

    HOW MANY OF THESE PREDICTIONS HAVE TURNED CORRECT. YES THERE WAS ONE RESIGNATION OF A TRUSTEE BUT  AMROLIWALLA IS NOT IN FRAY.
    EVEN ITEM ‘G’ DID NOT COME TRUE.
    NOW HERE ARE MY SET OF PRECTIONS. WAPIZ CANDIDATE WILL EMERGE A WINNER. BICKERINGS IN BOARD ROOM WILL INCREASE.  YET ANOTHER TRUSTEE WILL RESIGN AND BY 2012 PARSEES WILL HAVE TO LINE UP FOR VOTING ONCE AGAIN. THERE IS EVERY LIKELIHOOD OF TWO SET OF TRUSTEES FILING COURT CASES.

  27. Zerxes.

    HOW MANY OF THESE PREDICTIONS HAVE TURNED CORRECT. YES THERE WAS ONE RESIGNATION OF A TRUSTEE BUT  AMROLIWALLA IS NOT IN FRAY.
    EVEN ITEM ‘G’ DID NOT COME TRUE.
    NOW HERE ARE MY SET OF PRECTIONS. WAPIZ CANDIDATE WILL EMERGE A WINNER. BICKERINGS IN BOARD ROOM WILL INCREASE.  YET ANOTHER TRUSTEE WILL RESIGN AND BY 2012 PARSEES WILL HAVE TO LINE UP FOR VOTING ONCE AGAIN. THERE IS EVERY LIKELIHOOD OF TWO SET OF TRUSTEES FILING COURT CASES.

  28. Barak Aga

    Dear Mr. Icchaporia,
    You may be mistaken about this person. There was an incident in Readers Digest India years ago, involving the signatory to J. R. D. Tata’s will.
    Also this person was associated with a group of companies which was raided by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation in 1992-1993. There were violations of corporate laws, to which this person turned a blind eye too, in spite of legal opinion to the contrary.
    Ghosts from the past can come to haunt this person.

  29. Barak Aga

    Dear Mr. Icchaporia,
    You may be mistaken about this person. There was an incident in Readers Digest India years ago, involving the signatory to J. R. D. Tata’s will.
    Also this person was associated with a group of companies which was raided by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation in 1992-1993. There were violations of corporate laws, to which this person turned a blind eye too, in spite of legal opinion to the contrary.
    Ghosts from the past can come to haunt this person.

  30. Barak Aga

    Dear Mr. Icchaporia,
    You may be mistaken about this person. There was an incident in Readers Digest India years ago, involving the signatory to J. R. D. Tata’s will.
    Also this person was associated with a group of companies which was raided by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation in 1992-1993. There were violations of corporate laws, to which this person turned a blind eye too, in spite of legal opinion to the contrary.
    Ghosts from the past can come to haunt this person.

  31. Barak Aga

    Dear Mr. Icchaporia,
    You may be mistaken about this person. There was an incident in Readers Digest India years ago, involving the signatory to J. R. D. Tata’s will.
    Also this person was associated with a group of companies which was raided by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation in 1992-1993. There were violations of corporate laws, to which this person turned a blind eye too, in spite of legal opinion to the contrary.
    Ghosts from the past can come to haunt this person.

  32. Barak Aga

    Dear Mr. Icchaporia,
    You may be mistaken about this person. There was an incident in Readers Digest India years ago, involving the signatory to J. R. D. Tata’s will.
    Also this person was associated with a group of companies which was raided by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation in 1992-1993. There were violations of corporate laws, to which this person turned a blind eye too, in spite of legal opinion to the contrary.
    Ghosts from the past can come to haunt this person.

  33. Hutoxi Driver

    Can Bejan Daruwalla predict when Parsi Panchayat will start looking after the poor Parsis? It is sad to see our Parsi brothers and sisters live in poverty. It is a shame.
    Hope they open their eyes and do the needful.
    Hutoxi Driver

  34. Hutoxi Driver

    Can Bejan Daruwalla predict when Parsi Panchayat will start looking after the poor Parsis? It is sad to see our Parsi brothers and sisters live in poverty. It is a shame.
    Hope they open their eyes and do the needful.
    Hutoxi Driver

  35. Hutoxi Driver

    Can Bejan Daruwalla predict when Parsi Panchayat will start looking after the poor Parsis? It is sad to see our Parsi brothers and sisters live in poverty. It is a shame.
    Hope they open their eyes and do the needful.
    Hutoxi Driver

  36. Dara

    Now that we are at the fag end of the year, may i request Mr. Berjis Desai.to assiduously assess his predictions and publish them — a la Bejan Daruwalla — in his PTA column on 1st January 2012 along with his “10 Predictions for Parsis for 2012”.

  37. Dara

    Now that we are at the fag end of the year, may i request Mr. Berjis Desai.to assiduously assess his predictions and publish them — a la Bejan Daruwalla — in his PTA column on 1st January 2012 along with his “10 Predictions for Parsis for 2012”.

  38. Dara

    Now that we are at the fag end of the year, may i request Mr. Berjis Desai.to assiduously assess his predictions and publish them — a la Bejan Daruwalla — in his PTA column on 1st January 2012 along with his “10 Predictions for Parsis for 2012”.