The Bombay Parsi Punchayet (BPP) meet, which was called at Dadar Parsi Gymkhana last evening to mark one year of existence, was left without a voice, literally.
The loudspeakers were switched off halfway through the function after complaints to the local police station.
This forced the trustees to shout to the 3,000-strong crowd and allege that some people within the community were jealous of the BPP’s achievements.
Even after the mikes were switched off, speaker K Mistree remained defiant, shouting his last words, "This is a work of sabotage, though the voice of honesty and truth cannot be scuttled."
This lead the irate audience to even suggest that they pile into cars and gherao the Dadar police station to find out who was behind the complaint.
A woman said, "Functions have been held here in the past, but loudspeakers were never shut."
And resident S Panthaky said philosophically, "When a community tends to dwindle, it goes into destructive mode. This is what is happening with the fighting here."
Ironically, just before the mayhem started, BPP’s Jimmy Mistry had said to the audience, "Let the fires and fighting in our community stop today."
Original article here.
The Trustees should stop playing on community sentiments to draw misplaced sympathy by portraying themselves as tragic victims of some devious sabotage and truthfully admit the BPP gaffe!
The BPP management which administrates a corpus of crores, is surprisingly ill informed on the law of taking mandatory licenses for holding functions on public grounds and/or overly sanguine about ensuring that needful has been done by the organisers. Allegedly, the celebrations at the Dadar Parsee Gymkhana were interrupted just as the Chairman completed his speech, with concerned authorities enforcing closure and throwing high expectations for a toss, for precisly this inadequacy. Unfortunately, money cant buy the Trustees, everything!
All this leaves a cynic wondering if the evening fiasco was simple overconfidence gone awry or a calculated ruse by BPP to save speakers from answering embarrassing questions from thinking members of the community in attendance.
Touche, the new BPP logo proved of no help in overcoming Trustees’ superstition, for regardless of the two sacred winged bulls in the newly designed emblem, the BPP continues to burn in fires of controversty.
The Trustees should stop playing on community sentiments to draw misplaced sympathy by portraying themselves as tragic victims of some devious sabotage and truthfully admit the BPP gaffe!
The BPP management which administrates a corpus of crores, is surprisingly ill informed on the law of taking mandatory licenses for holding functions on public grounds and/or overly sanguine about ensuring that needful has been done by the organisers. Allegedly, the celebrations at the Dadar Parsee Gymkhana were interrupted just as the Chairman completed his speech, with concerned authorities enforcing closure and throwing high expectations for a toss, for precisly this inadequacy. Unfortunately, money cant buy the Trustees, everything!
All this leaves a cynic wondering if the evening fiasco was simple overconfidence gone awry or a calculated ruse by BPP to save speakers from answering embarrassing questions from thinking members of the community in attendance.
Touche, the new BPP logo proved of no help in overcoming Trustees’ superstition, for regardless of the two sacred winged bulls in the newly designed emblem, the BPP continues to burn in fires of controversty.
Congratulating the trustees on their innovations and ideas…..
It was really sad that the BPP did make a mistake by not getting the proper paper work which ofcourse is really essential when some people try and take advantage of such loopholes..whilst ofcourse being impotent whilst dandya music, mandap loudpeakers blaring on street corners even in Parsi colonies by our brother communities…
Lastly every facet of society have people who shall always demand their’wants’ be adhered to and find faults with everything else…ahem apart from Brand management strategies, The new logo adds visual strength according to me…
One can start a personal tirade against BPP for having the new brand image and also those who dont see mountains falling due to such…
With regards to the launch of ZYNG, kudos to the young minds, and hope they prosper..though my guess is that people who have been saddened by such youth movements will now file another suit on the BPP since they sometimes use the offices of the BPP..That would really be a laugh…especialy when such organisatons do these under the pseudo banner of alerting and reviving Zooastrianism..
Congratulating the trustees on their innovations and ideas…..
It was really sad that the BPP did make a mistake by not getting the proper paper work which ofcourse is really essential when some people try and take advantage of such loopholes..whilst ofcourse being impotent whilst dandya music, mandap loudpeakers blaring on street corners even in Parsi colonies by our brother communities…
Lastly every facet of society have people who shall always demand their’wants’ be adhered to and find faults with everything else…ahem apart from Brand management strategies, The new logo adds visual strength according to me…
One can start a personal tirade against BPP for having the new brand image and also those who dont see mountains falling due to such…
With regards to the launch of ZYNG, kudos to the young minds, and hope they prosper..though my guess is that people who have been saddened by such youth movements will now file another suit on the BPP since they sometimes use the offices of the BPP..That would really be a laugh…especialy when such organisatons do these under the pseudo banner of alerting and reviving Zooastrianism..
I have never heard of a public meeting being brought to an end at 7.30pm!! This smacks of incompetence or worse, corruption.
The trustees should arrange another meeting to report on their “achievements” during the past year WITHOUT dinner/lunch and see how many show up!! Most people present there on Sunday had only come for the free meal.
Correct Rostam,
Why should there be an incentive for free food?
Moreover, with Parsee poulation of over 40,000. presence of 1000 Parsees can not be claimed to be an Anjumam meet.
Let the Trustees call for questions/clarifications in advance from members of the community and be ready with answers in the next meet.
As for the fiasco, it should not be difficult to ascertain the real mischief-maker.
Quote:”especialy when such organisatons do these under the pseudo banner of alerting and reviving Zooastrianism”
As if the Organisation which stands to Preserve and Protect has not spolit the image of the Community in eyes of sister communities.
Further, the ‘contribution’ of the Ahmedabadi sponsored Organisation in dividing the tiny community can not be under estimated.
I have never heard of a public meeting being brought to an end at 7.30pm!! This smacks of incompetence or worse, corruption.
The trustees should arrange another meeting to report on their “achievements” during the past year WITHOUT dinner/lunch and see how many show up!! Most people present there on Sunday had only come for the free meal.
Correct Rostam,
Why should there be an incentive for free food?
Moreover, with Parsee poulation of over 40,000. presence of 1000 Parsees can not be claimed to be an Anjumam meet.
Let the Trustees call for questions/clarifications in advance from members of the community and be ready with answers in the next meet.
As for the fiasco, it should not be difficult to ascertain the real mischief-maker.
Quote:”especialy when such organisatons do these under the pseudo banner of alerting and reviving Zooastrianism”
As if the Organisation which stands to Preserve and Protect has not spolit the image of the Community in eyes of sister communities.
Further, the ‘contribution’ of the Ahmedabadi sponsored Organisation in dividing the tiny community can not be under estimated.
A better option would be to call AZA to a public debate with the BPP trustees. All community members should be invited to this open debate. No food should be organized.
It is to be seen whether AZA is prepared to take up such a challenge or prefers to write lenghty good for nothing write ups in the Jame Jamshed, their pet Speaker box !
A better option would be to call AZA to a public debate with the BPP trustees. All community members should be invited to this open debate. No food should be organized.
It is to be seen whether AZA is prepared to take up such a challenge or prefers to write lenghty good for nothing write ups in the Jame Jamshed, their pet Speaker box !
Questions in advance are very necessary. Firstly, past experience has shown that those answerable will say that due to shortage of time they can not reply ALL QUESTIONS.
Secondly the person responsible for replying will get a fair time to be prepared with facts and figures.A dwindling community is not interested in 10 year plan.
ASKING QUESTIONS WILL NOT BE THE MONOPOLY OF A Z A .
Questions in advance are very necessary. Firstly, past experience has shown that those answerable will say that due to shortage of time they can not reply ALL QUESTIONS.
Secondly the person responsible for replying will get a fair time to be prepared with facts and figures.A dwindling community is not interested in 10 year plan.
ASKING QUESTIONS WILL NOT BE THE MONOPOLY OF A Z A .
The above comment of Mr. Behram Dhaber dt, 29th October is very interesting and very true. I admire his short comment which speaks volumes!
The above comment of Mr. Behram Dhaber dt, 29th October is very interesting and very true. I admire his short comment which speaks volumes!
Aban,
How do you assume that only AZA has monopoly to ask questions to Trustees.? AZA does not represent All Parsees and others too have right to question Trustees.
Such ‘Debating” in the past (5 decades ago) used to degenerate into pelting eggs and rotten tomatoes. Do we want to make a spectacle of our community in eyes of others?
Aban,
How do you assume that only AZA has monopoly to ask questions to Trustees.? AZA does not represent All Parsees and others too have right to question Trustees.
Such ‘Debating” in the past (5 decades ago) used to degenerate into pelting eggs and rotten tomatoes. Do we want to make a spectacle of our community in eyes of others?
Just want to say your article is striking. The clarity in your post is simply striking and i can take for granted you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with forthcoming post. Thanks a million and please keep up the ac complished work. Excuse my poor English. English is not my mother tongue.
Just want to say your article is striking. The clarity in your post is simply striking and i can take for granted you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with forthcoming post. Thanks a million and please keep up the ac complished work. Excuse my poor English. English is not my mother tongue.
A letter captioned “Anger Management” has appeared in Parsiana dated the 7th Feb 2010 which has raised legitimate issues including the Dadar Gymkhana meet. It is mentioned that Frenzied Bawas signed on blank sheets of paper without knowing the contents of the proposed letter and the authority to whom it was intended to be addressed.
The community would now like to know the outcome of the said petition.
This letter and another one on page 39 of the same issue titled “Hidden Agenda” demonstrate the fact that there is no shortage of thinking and rational Parsees.
Let those who call realists, sensible and rationals as ‘deformists’,display their ‘knowledge’ and skill by replying these mails appearing in Parsiana,
Thanks, Anti Dhongi for pointing out this vary pertinent article of Parsiana. The penultimate para on page 6 really is an expression of many genuine Parsis .”Anyone who can not face reality is unable to face the truth. Such a person is a moral coward………………..” The other sentence is most pertinent i,e. “Such a person is a devil’s disciple, has nothing to do with religion or God, but is a rank opportunists.” HOW VERY TRUE and we can now have an alliteration – Devils disciples from D…. . of course not Dadarji. A befitting compliment from ‘deformists’.
A letter captioned “Anger Management” has appeared in Parsiana dated the 7th Feb 2010 which has raised legitimate issues including the Dadar Gymkhana meet. It is mentioned that Frenzied Bawas signed on blank sheets of paper without knowing the contents of the proposed letter and the authority to whom it was intended to be addressed.
The community would now like to know the outcome of the said petition.
This letter and another one on page 39 of the same issue titled “Hidden Agenda” demonstrate the fact that there is no shortage of thinking and rational Parsees.
Let those who call realists, sensible and rationals as ‘deformists’,display their ‘knowledge’ and skill by replying these mails appearing in Parsiana,
Thanks, Anti Dhongi for pointing out this vary pertinent article of Parsiana. The penultimate para on page 6 really is an expression of many genuine Parsis .”Anyone who can not face reality is unable to face the truth. Such a person is a moral coward………………..” The other sentence is most pertinent i,e. “Such a person is a devil’s disciple, has nothing to do with religion or God, but is a rank opportunists.” HOW VERY TRUE and we can now have an alliteration – Devils disciples from D…. . of course not Dadarji. A befitting compliment from ‘deformists’.
A question of Monopoly of AZA to ask questions…
well it seriously thinks that it has the monoploy..with embroiling the trustees of the BPP with all the court hassles on one front..then demanding housing for ALL its preferred clients!!! oh no one else is poor…
subtly fighting against the dakhma…ofcourse under guise..like India in kasmir have NO Paki/taliban interference.!!…(seriously Kasab must have learnt from AZA and its cronies)….all the sundry charges of the one Poor trustee gaining sympathy thinking dissenting is opposing…in all fronts…..
oh Just because AZA backed trustees didnt win!..yes anyone who cannot face reality is unable to face the truth…the reality of please let us follow our practises without hinderance just as you are free to practise what you like..cannot be digested..hence if all do not change to what this cotorie with diff organisations n names wants….then all shall be labbelled taliban…
They are not deemed to exercise the freedom they have to follow whatever they want or believe in….but they deem it their right that Everyone shud givve up Zoroastrian practises like the dakhma..It is their freedom to want this demand met..
They shall exercise the right to group up all dissenting people..the intermarried..hey afterall if one spouce wants gnpati then that shud be zoroastrian whilst if someone likes other foreig trads..then Zoroastrianism must adapt to it…if someone dislikes dakhmas..end it…freedom of their choice…shudbe enforced…or forget the rules laid down by the saviours and donors of Zoroastrian instituions…if the foreign spoice wants to break it…enforce this freedom..
AFter all..zoroastrianism is all about freedom of choice..FOR THEM CHOICE THAT SUITS….oh not about following it or not…but freedom to alter it…
A question of Monopoly of AZA to ask questions…
well it seriously thinks that it has the monoploy..with embroiling the trustees of the BPP with all the court hassles on one front..then demanding housing for ALL its preferred clients!!! oh no one else is poor…
subtly fighting against the dakhma…ofcourse under guise..like India in kasmir have NO Paki/taliban interference.!!…(seriously Kasab must have learnt from AZA and its cronies)….all the sundry charges of the one Poor trustee gaining sympathy thinking dissenting is opposing…in all fronts…..
oh Just because AZA backed trustees didnt win!..yes anyone who cannot face reality is unable to face the truth…the reality of please let us follow our practises without hinderance just as you are free to practise what you like..cannot be digested..hence if all do not change to what this cotorie with diff organisations n names wants….then all shall be labbelled taliban…
They are not deemed to exercise the freedom they have to follow whatever they want or believe in….but they deem it their right that Everyone shud givve up Zoroastrian practises like the dakhma..It is their freedom to want this demand met..
They shall exercise the right to group up all dissenting people..the intermarried..hey afterall if one spouce wants gnpati then that shud be zoroastrian whilst if someone likes other foreig trads..then Zoroastrianism must adapt to it…if someone dislikes dakhmas..end it…freedom of their choice…shudbe enforced…or forget the rules laid down by the saviours and donors of Zoroastrian instituions…if the foreign spoice wants to break it…enforce this freedom..
AFter all..zoroastrianism is all about freedom of choice..FOR THEM CHOICE THAT SUITS….oh not about following it or not…but freedom to alter it…
WHY HAS BPP NOT ARRANGED FOR ANOTHER SAMAST MEET AFTER THE FIASCO MONTHS BACK. DO THEY NOT HAVE ANY POLICY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE. A NEW MULTI STORIED BUILDING IS COMING UP IN GODREJ BAUG.
WILL IT BE EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARSEE ZOROASTRIANS ONLY?
THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEEK INFORMATION.
WHY HAS BPP NOT ARRANGED FOR ANOTHER SAMAST MEET AFTER THE FIASCO MONTHS BACK. DO THEY NOT HAVE ANY POLICY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE. A NEW MULTI STORIED BUILDING IS COMING UP IN GODREJ BAUG.
WILL IT BE EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARSEE ZOROASTRIANS ONLY?
THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEEK INFORMATION.